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Remember to check out our Patreon. patreon.com/happy sadconfused early access, discount codes to our live events, and much, much more. We've got a live one on October 13th in New York City with Joe Manganelo talking about his career, his new memoir, and more. Okay, main event today, as I said, it's Audrey Arhona, who is very much in demand. Um she's getting like all these choice roles and welldeserved. Um she kind of came I think I feel like the ne the big break for her in recent years has to be Hitman the Richard Linklater film with her and Glenn Powell. But since then getting the absolutely great role of Bixs in andor being cast in the new Thomas Crown Affair remake getting this new potentially game-changing role in Man of Tomorrow uh and leading this film Onslaught directed by Adam Windgard. If you know Adam Wingard's uh films, you know that he's kind of got a Gonzo spirit, like an action slasher spirit to much of his early works. And this is kind of a return to form. Um Audrea is a kick-ass heroine in this. She leads the way alongside a cast that includes Drew Starky. Um Reginald Vel Johnson, if you know Die Hard, you know who I'm talking about. Uh and Dan Stevens and Rebecca Hall and more. So, she's great in this. This is a really fun conversation and I know a lot of people are going to be tuning into this one because they are curious about Audrea's role in Man of Tomorrow, the Superman sequel. There's a lot of conjecture about who she plays. To lay it out on the table, there's conjecture that she's playing a character named Maxima or there's conjecture that she's playing a character known as Wonder Woman. Now, I don't know who she plays. For the record, I have no idea who she plays. I have no inside intel. I just know what I believe, which is I'm guessing she's Wonder Woman. And I think she'd be a hell of a Wonder Woman. We have a nice extended conversation about those rumors. A very playful conversation. Don't worry, we don't spoil anything. But I think no matter who she ends up playing in retrospect, this portion of the conversation you guys are going to dig. So enjoy this entire chat with Audrea about her entire career onslaught all the way back uh and to the future with Thomas Crown Affair and Man of Tomorrow. Enjoy. >> Audrea, are you ready for this? >> I'm ready. >> Did I get it right? Audrea, >> you did. You're the first one today. >> The first one. >> Yeah. I was going to say I feel like look in in the trajectory of your career you're you're killing it the last few years especially you've been doing it for a minute but especially the last few years have you noticed a ratio of like percentage of people getting it right the name >> they keep killing it >> they keep killing your name >> they keep killing my name I feel like it's getting worse >> no what's the worst pronunciation what's the one that gets on your screen >> was one I got today >> um >> that's just adding syllables that's adding >> that's adding letters you're like what is happening I've gotten Abigail many times >> huh Yeah, Abigail always surprises me and it's the one that I get the most. I'm like, >> not even close. >> A B, a G, an L. You're getting real creative. My name is five letters. >> Get guys, come on. >> It's five letters. >> Pay some respect. >> It's Adria Arona. >> There it is. >> Or Audrea Arjona. >> Arjona. God damn it. >> Most importantly, let's call her a first- time guest on Happy Say, Confused. I'm so happy to have you here. I've been following your work a lot lately >> and I've been following yours. >> Oh, I appreciate you. Um, congratulations. The new film we're spreading the good word on is Adam Wingard's um, mad cap. I don't know what we call slasher genre mashup onslaught. Um, >> that was good. >> How are you feeling? You're like about to deliver this child into the universe. You've been very much behind this one. You love this one. I know. Um, do you tend to get like tense before release? Excited? Put me in your head a little bit. Well, this one's a wild child. Yes. So, I'm a little scared. >> Um, no, I'm really excited. I'm excited. I'm I'm particularly excited about this one because and I felt the same in in Splitzville because it's very much a director's movie. Um, you know, I love watching a director take a swing and freaking nail it and it's he makes some very interesting choices. The sound design in this movie is amazing. Um, and I just, yeah, I I like seeing risky movies go to the theaters. >> This is what I always say. I mean, one of my mantras on this podcast is like, I I'll take a big swing that succeeds or fails any day over I don't need a double. I don't need like a safe. >> We've seen plenty of safe movies. Just go for it. >> Just go for it. Adam Wingard goes for it. >> So, part of like I mean there's I'm sure a lot of appeal. We'll start with the film, then we'll I'll backtrack about a lot of other stuff in your career if you'll indulge me. But like I mean you're aspiring I would imagine Adam and yourself like to some kind of like iconic badassery. >> Oh yeah. >> In this like this is like Ripley Sarah Connor in in the DNA. Like is that referenced like right from the start? >> I mean maybe there's an air there to I mean she was my north star in preparation and then once I you know started filming I kind of dropped that idea. I'm like, it's too much for me to >> Yeah. put that picture on the >> put that picture in my trailer. I'm like, no, she's too cool. She's just way too cool. Um, but I aspired, you know, she was part of my inspiration. Yeah, >> definitely in the in the prep work. And I think when you first start watching the movie, you're like a little confused by my character, which is what we sort of intended. I I we made a very specific choice that we wanted her to feel messy >> and and have a complicated relationship with motherhood. Um we see so many male actors get a chance to portray those characters, but rarely do we see women get to portray those characters. So that was really fun and it was an intentional >> Yeah. >> choice. Is there a sense I mean like for those that have probably most people that are listening to this podcast have watched Adam's work before but like my sense is like people are game like I mean this film alone your performance I mean what what Drew Starky is doing here what Dan Stevens is doing here like props to everybody >> everybody goes for it >> right >> everybody goes for it >> is that something that's just like inherent to like the atmosphere Adam creates on set it baked into the DNA of the script I mean why do you think he attracts actors that are kind of willing to go for it. >> Well, I mean, it definitely is Adam for sure, but I think for this one specifically, it's Adam coming back home >> to what he does best, what he's loved to do, the kind of movies that defined him as a filmmaker. He went off and did these big studio movies. And out of what he's told me, I don't want to speak for him, he loved them, you know, he had so much fun, but there was a part of him that was missing. You know, he wasn't necessarily making his movies. Yeah. >> Adam's passion project. >> Yeah. Nothing about this feels compromised. It doesn't feel like, oh, someone in a studio was like, "Can we put this in here? Can we do that?" No. >> No. No. No. No. No. Not at all. >> Like opposite. >> Not at all. Quite opposite. You know, I think for example, me having an eye patch on. Like I've been trying my whole career to have a scar on my face and no studio allows me to have blood or scar on my face, you know? It's always like an arm, this that, but I don't know. I've always I just thought I would look cool. Um, and no one's let me except for Adam W. >> I mean, shades of John Carpenter. You can't think you can't see like a like an eye patch without thinking like Snake Piskin. At least I can't, right? I mean, when do you I know this isn't necessarily like an easy shoot. like what's when do you on this set feel at your coolest and at your whimst on the set? Like what's the high and what's the low? >> There was not an easy day on set on this one for sure. Um I think the beginning of the movie >> feels a little bit lighter for my character, but it's still, you know, it's it's a performance like no other that I've done. So, I think every time you step into someone's shoes that you've never or like a character that you've never tackled or the idea of a character that you've never tackled, >> I don't think there's an easy day on set and I'm kind of neurotic in that sense. I'm like >> I just want to do a good job. So, I >> So, is that constantly is there constant tension then for you like that? I mean, is that a place that you like to live in as an actor where >> No, no, no, no, no. I maybe I'm describing myself wrong. I'm the prop master here. Um, and the armor, uh, Brett, who is the reason I look cool in this movie, he described me like pretty perfectly. He's like, "You're like a wild horse. You just go for it." Like it's a small little direction. I'm like, I just jolt towards things. Um, no, I like to have fun. >> Has that always been the case? I mean, because I've talked to a lot of actors where it's like that's that's where you want to be optimally, but a lot of times you get sometimes you get burned by directors, by editors, etc., And it's like you want to always get to that flow state on a set, but that's a lot of trust to put into a filmmaker. >> Yeah. Well, I I do trust Adam Wingard for sure. Um I think you just have to >> I don't know like just go for it. To me, it's a little bit more exciting than >> than overthinking things. I'm not very analytical, >> right, >> when it comes to acting. I could be analytical about other stuff, but when it comes to acting, I'm not. It's like fully intuition. So when people sometimes ask me like what's your style of work or what's your process? I'm like I don't have one. I don't I really don't. Every movie is different. Um >> I mean that being said you did I mean we'll get into the background now if that's okay. Like you you were trained like you did Lee Strawber here in the in the city and that's hardcore like acting you know. That's >> Oh no. Yeah. I mean I did a whole conservatory at Lee Strasburg. Yeah. I was. >> So is that so like going through something like that, what did you discover about sort of what your process is, right? Like was were you trying different kind of ways to do what you do now? Like where are you at now versus where you were then? >> Oh, I had to shed a lot of stuff coming out of school. >> Really? >> Yeah. And there's no Look, I think I've never been a school person. I've never liked school. I loved acting school. It created a community for me. It gave me so many tools. But when I started working, I had to unlearn a lot of stuff. I came with a lot of tricks and little things in my pocket and it just wasn't translating the same. At least not for me. I know actors that I went to school with that still follow that it works really well for them, but >> I I I don't Yeah, it never worked for me. I there's everything about method acting and you know replacing things and going back to it. I would always feel sorry there's a >> but you're being attacked. >> Um there's always something about >> like sense memory and all those things. It feels a little too self-indulgent for me. >> Yeah. I really bounce off of whoever is in front of me and like looking into somebody's eyes and yeah, making them react or having fun and just honestly just >> playing and just being a little kid >> and just trying to play and figure it out. Um, that seems to work a lot more for me. It feels a lot more organic and truthful, right? >> That's why I don't come in with so much of my own. I feel like sometimes it could be disruptive for me. I know a lot of people it works. Um, I think the most important if I were to have a process, it's sort of like I don't know how to explain it. Sort of gauging everybody else's process and being like, "All right, this director kind of works like this." >> Interesting. >> This actor works like that. How do I respect their >> boundaries and play with them? But yeah, I don't like >> imposing your own kind of like >> Yeah. No, I find that to be >> It's selfish. It can be selfish for an actor. I mean, I've had this conversation with a lot of the actors and I I appreciate what you're saying because >> Yeah. And also, where's the fun of it if you've like done all the work? If you've done like all the work in your trailer and have like bring like a mannered performance that doesn't like have any conversation with anybody else, like you might as well be doing it on your own. Yeah. >> Or with a tennis ball. >> Yeah. >> Like I don't I don't I don't know. I don't have >> I don't have fun that way. Um I do I can freak out some actors out. I'm pretty spontaneous. Some people are like, "Whoa, what are you doing?" >> Is that changing the lines or just changing like movement or like what's Can you give me an example of what's >> Sometimes I'll do a couple takes like word for word and then I'll ask for like >> one for me. >> Yeah. One for me kind of and >> and do certain things. Sometimes it ends in the editing floor, sometimes it ends in the movie, but you give an option in the edit room. And I think being a producer has allowed me to ask for >> Yes. one for me. >> Yeah. >> Um and those are always Yeah. Those are always fun. >> Yeah. >> Shakes it shakes it up on set too for everybody hopefully. In a good way. >> In a good way. Yeah. I think my biggest talent is paraphrasing. >> Getting the gist of it. You >> at me no one is better. >> Meaning like kind of shortening what you the gist getting to the gist of the what the >> Yeah. You give me a line. I could say that line in a different way. >> And it's by choice. And I would imagine there are some you worked with a lot of different directors and there's some that are like cool. >> Oh no. I know when to do it and when not. >> Who's the list of the yes yays and the naysay like of the >> Tony Gilroy is absolutely no >> because also it would it would do a disservice. I would I would be messing poetry to what I would be messing myself up. >> Yes. >> Um if I were to change even a comma or a period in Tony Gilroy. It would not be okay. That would ruin the rhythm. Yeah. Of the whole thing. >> That's sorcin level. You don't want to go near that. >> So, I'm like, I know when to do it. Sure. Richard Linklater. >> You explore everything in rehearsal >> and you rewrite it and write it and rewrite it and write it and then you explore more. You figure it out and then once you get it, there is no improv on set. >> Oh, interesting. >> Zero. >> Not. >> That's the whole point of all the rehearsal process. Everything. We get to the point where it's locked in. Now, >> it's locked in. There's no questions on set. If there's a question on set, why didn't you ask it in rehearsal? Like, you really exhaust every possibility? And it's been one of the easiest movies I've I've been in because we knew exactly what we were doing. We finished early. The mood on set was so light because nobody was figuring it out. I went to sleep in such peace because I knew what I did. >> I I wasn't like, "Oh man, I should have tried that. >> Oh man, I had an instinct and didn't follow it." Yeah, >> I followed every instinct. I fell so hard on some >> because you just have fun and you I mean when I say that we would go to places and Rick would be like, "What are you guys doing?" And it you just go to the craziest place because you're in a safe environment. >> Yeah. >> Time is not, you know, time is not part of the equation because we're in rehearsal and we have all the time in the world. You know, we have three weeks. >> Yeah. I've never seen like a filmmaker I've never been on on one of his sets, but like you can certain you can kind of tell the vibe of a person related to their set. Like my sense is like he's such a chill, >> so chill. >> Like everything about him emanates that. And you describing a set sounds like that is Richard >> Winkl and so fun and funny and laidback. >> It's like walk I'm like is this work? >> Me and Gun were like are we working? >> Right. >> This is weird. Doesn't feel like work. More happy, sad, confused coming up. 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Like in retrospect, does that imprint on you in a profound way, you think, to why you do what you do? >> I think so. And to be fair, I my biggest dream was always to be like a huge pop star. >> That was the first one. >> Yeah. I was like, I want to be the next Britney Spears. >> It's not too late. And I can't sing. >> Okay, it's too late. >> It's too late. Like I never had a shot. I never had a shot. But no one broke my dream until I think my brother or I had like a recorder and I recorded myself singing and then I played it back. I was like, "That can't be. >> That can't be true. That's not me." And I did it again. I was like, "Oh, I'm bad." >> How old were you that there? >> I'm really bad. Um like 12 or 13. I'm like at this point I'd be singing nonstop. I'm like, I feel so bad for my family. >> Like, where's my contract, guys? Sign me up. >> Sorry. >> Yeah. Now, >> Dad, I want to sing a song with you on stage. He's like, no, Mita, you're too young. You're too young. I was like, no, I just was really bad and no one wanted to tell me. >> No, that's sweet and sad at the same time. >> Sad, but I mean, it worked out. I'm I'm I'm good. And I still sing. I sing all the time. Really >> badly, but I sing. I love to sing. >> Don't rob yourself of that. >> No. I sang in Splitzville and Michael Kavino really did not believe that I couldn't sing. I'm trying. >> A bit. He thought it was >> I'm trying. >> This is peak Andrea. >> This is like the best I got. >> Okay, we'll cross off Mamma Mia 3 for you, but you've got a lot of other things you can do. >> Thank you. >> Um, >> oh, back to the road. Sorry. Um, that's sort of just because it like clicked in my head for the not for the first time, but like I've never really said this. I think adaptability is part of the process we were talking about earlier and I think it's from being on the road and moving so much and having to be in different schools and meeting new friends and some people were older, younger and you know from all sort of corners of the world and you just sort of had to adapt. So I guess that's my that's how I now look at a set. >> Well, I was going to say I mean as you described it that's an actor's lifestyle. like, you know, going from one carnival to the next, joining one company to the next. So, like that, whether you knew it or not, was kind of being >> ingrained into me. And I'm so thankful cuz now I can I don't know. I feel like I make little homes wherever I >> go, >> take a couple with you for the next one, like keep them in the phone, a couple more friends. >> Um, you seem to have, not to blow you up for a second, but you had really good taste in film and music. Like I just listening to some other interviews that you've given like anybody that can like go from like Adam Mccay to John Civvetes and love them both in equal parts I respect. Anybody that can talk at length about like cinema paradise so I know he's comes up. >> I love that movie. >> I love that movie too. >> I mean that's one of my like Eno Marone is one of my alltime >> Oh my god. You literally said any goosebumps like that man. >> It's the reason I love film is that movie. >> Yeah. I saw him >> and you know I mean >> he he performed here Radio City like you know 20 years ago and my wife got me tickets we went and it was pretty special. >> I saw him too. I saw him in Budapest when I was doing Emerald City and it was I don't know if it was one of his last per but he was you know he looked pretty frail. >> Yeah. >> And it was funny how he took that you know so his dignity let me rephrase that. There was something about that man and that man's dignity that held so much power. he could barely walk and then he had like an assistant that >> would help him walk and he was like, "No, >> people are going to wait for me >> to walk that." And he took a while to cross that stage and we all stared in silence. He's like, "No one's going to help me. I'm going to do it on my own." >> And I don't know, I I found that to be fascinating and so old school and elegant. >> Do you listen to It's like are movie soundtracks part of like your playlist? >> Yeah, big time. like at the gym, on a set, in all contexts, like when are you listening and what are you listening to? What are your go-tos? >> I mean, Cena is a huge one. Um, Last of the Moheakans is a huge one. >> Um, >> the last 15 minutes of that movie is like basically the best ending of any movie ever, probably. >> It's amazing, right? >> It's amazing. >> There's like no dialogue essentially. >> I agree with you 100%. >> Um, >> yeah, I will listen to it on set. Um, at the gym I don't because I'll drift like these I feel like movie soundtracks sort of make me >> escape and and go somewhere else and imagine and >> um which I guess is what they're supposed to do. So at the gym is not a good thing if I'm like >> got drop that weight on me. >> Exactly. I'll get really hurt. I'm already add though. So trajectory of your early life, your I guess are you starting to get serious like in Miami like or did it take coming to New York and doing Lee Strawber where you kind of got serious about the acting? >> I think I got serious in New York. I mean in Miami I did too. I I did Miami acting studio. Ralph Kennard was my professor and he was the one that pretty much pushed me to go to New York. He kind of like he kind of kicked me out. He was like, "If you stay in Miami, you're going to do soaps and I really believe that you got something." >> Yeah, there's more. >> There's more here. And he was the first person to tell me that I had something. I always thought I was, you know, I was really softspoken. >> I still kind of am sometimes. Um, and acting was kind of developing this other side of me and I was becoming more confident thanks to acting. speaking up a little bit more. >> And that was how it kind of started cuz I was I was really shy. >> Um and then it turned into, oh wait, I really love this. And then I became obsessed and I would watch three movies a night. I was barely sleeping. Um I would come up with so many ideas at this the Miami acting studio and Ralph was like, >> I think it's I think it's time for you to go. So when he essentially kicks you out or pushes you towards New York, you get here as we mentioned, Lee Strawber happens. You're training there. Are you also doing like side hustles like >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Every What? What side? I did them all. >> Um tables. You were a clown. >> I was a clown at little kids' birthday parties. >> Were you a good clown? >> I think so. I don't know. >> Did you have a shtick? Like >> moms would always give me tips. That's a good sign. I never got kicked out. >> Yeah. Um, yeah, that that was one of them. I was a waitress for a restaurant here. Got fired because I mispronounced the name of the restaurant. It was 1,200 miles. It was a I don't even think that No, the restaurant definitely does not exist. And I would answer the phone cuz I was a hostess. I would answer 1,200 miles. >> That's not a big Whatever. >> I know. But for months, I was like 1,200 miles. How can I help you? >> 1200 miles. >> 1 1200. And I would spice it up, too. I'm like 1 12 0 0 change the rhythm. They're like it's 1,200. I'm like okay I don't understand that American thing of 1,400 1200 it make that and will never make sense in my head for something. >> I can't defend it. >> Thank you. It it so I got fired for that. So now I hate it even more. You'll never hear me say >> 1,200. I'll always say 1,200. >> You're scarred for life. Is there >> I am scarred. >> Are there any children's birthday clown scars? Is there any Is that Was that a fun job? >> That was so much fun. >> Yeah. You're making kids happy. You're like >> kind of easy and really funny. I mean, kids are so incredibly honest that, you know, they'll humble you. >> Yeah, >> that's for sure. >> Yeah. >> They're like, "That the painting you did on my face sucks." I'm like, >> "You're not wrong." >> Yeah. You need a director to be that direct. Yeah, >> exactly. >> What you just did sucked. >> So, I could work with any director. I've worked with kids. I got it. I'm I'm I'm safe. Um, is it safe to say is a true detective essentially kind of the big the first big major job that that really changed everything? >> Yeah. >> I mean, does anything ever equate to like you've had a lot of like really great phone calls, emails, etc. the last five, six years, I would imagine especially, but like that first job, that first kind of like major thing that you kind of like, as I understand it, kind of manifested, kind of chased like when you get that. >> Yeah, it was huge, right? >> It was huge. I was with my dad in Mexico and I think he had just gone off a show or something and we were having dinner and I could not the whole restaurant found out about that I got to protect him. Like I was so I could not I really could not believe it cuz the story of that was they were looking at a list of names like they were like oh we have a list of like really famous actresses and obviously had not a single IMDb credit nothing >> I had just done Narcos >> y >> um but it was weird because it was it was at the beginning of Netflix nobody really understood what Netflix was so it didn't feel as big as you know HBO True Detective and it Season two I had >> coming off of that first season which was a phenomenon legit. >> I can't believe episode five is one of my favorite TV episodes ever. Um I think that chase is that sequence is amazing. >> So I think the one you're talking >> the wer it was like the first time anybody had done a one like on TV or something. I could be wrong but I had never seen it. Yeah. >> Um >> yeah and I pretended to be my pretended to be my manager and I got myself that role. Do you do a voice or you just doing like >> Yeah, I just did like a more serious version of my my voice would be like really focused on no accent, >> right? >> Um >> 1,200 Adria Ara. No, I probably said I probably mispronounced my own name >> intentionally just intentionally like Adria is such a great actress. >> How do you pronounce the last? Giona, I believe. >> We'll get back to you on that one. Um, yeah. And I I I did the self tape, sent it, and then when they called me, I was just like I I I couldn't believe it. >> This actually worked. >> Oh, I also lied and said I was a local hireer, >> right? >> Which I wasn't. I lived in New York. They filmed in LA. So, I'm like, great. Now, I have to move to LA. And my mom's like, "No, you don't. You just have to book yourself a a you know, a hotel." >> Yeah. extended stay at >> extended stand or whatever and I was like um and then I kind of calculated it and I was like that's too expensive. >> Yeah. >> So I moved to LA and I was like I'm going to move to LA and it was my big moment. I got this the cheapest hotel in downtown which ended up crazily having a bomb there, a bomb threat when I was there. So we got kicked out of there and that Yeah. It was really scary. >> Yeah. >> Um not for my mom for some reason. She was cool with it. She was like, >> she's like, "I got to go upstairs and get my stuff." >> I was like, "Mom, we got to get out of here. There's like something really serious happening. There's cops everywhere." And my mom's like, "No." And she got it in in the elevator, too. >> And went >> and brought me brought me with her >> and we took our time packing the room. I was like, "What are we doing right now? This is crazy. What's happening?" And we >> left. She's like, "Well, now we don't have to come back, >> right?" I was like, "Mom, we were never coming back. There's a threat in this hotel." Um, so that was like my >> all built character though. All >> these welcome to LA. >> More happy, sad, confused. Coming up. I don't know about you, but as I look back at my life now, there's so many times I think of where I could have used therapy after the loss of a loved one or a job or a breakup. Anxiety has come and gone for me. It's probably done the same thing for you. With Rua, I know I could have coped with all of it a whole lot better. It's so great that RUA is now available because now you can find a great therapist online and one that actually takes your insurance because affordable and accessible mental health care should not be out of reach. And sadly, too often it is. I mean, you use insurance to cover your physical health, right? Shouldn't that also cover your mental health? Rua makes sure it does. 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Is it true you almost got the solo role, the Kira role that eventually went to Ameilia Clark? >> I did some research. I figured it out. >> Well, I said I was I guess I'm confessing this now. Um I've always said it was a Star Wars show. >> I've heard you say that. I did some math, did some research. I figured I cracked. >> Oh, so no one's told you. I just confessed. >> No, no, no, you didn't. to to be honestly to be clear there actually was reporting at the time that listed your name as the as um >> yeah and funny enough I worked with um Phil and Chris for Los Rickis right >> yeah I worked with them they gave me my first well Tyler Nelson Nelson Michael Schwarz and Phil and Chris gave me my first producing credit >> so can you take me through at least what the audition the audition process was you there with Phil and Chris were you reading with other actors >> yeah I was with Um, Alden. >> Yeah. >> And it was Phil and Phil and Chris were there. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it was it was I don't think I've ever been so nervous in my life. Um, they put you in a suit and like my biggest dream ever was to be in a Star Wars movie. You know, I had I hadn't necessarily seen a Latin American woman like myself be in Star Wars. So it it was like a big it almost felt like I had to break that wall or at least somebody else or another Latin American should break that wall >> and I would always root for them. Um but to be testing it's like oh my god it's going to it's going to be me. Um >> well that's the thing when you go through something like that and you come close it's like you start to imagine like this is the next five years of my life next 10 years I've got three solo movies coming up for me. Was that like at that stage in your career like a tough pill to swallow to >> No, I never thought about like the sequels or anything. It was more the emotional attachment of >> will I ever be in just Star Wars? Like I just wanted to to be in Star Wars and the fact that I had the opportunity to be a leading character in a Star Wars movie was like >> wow this would be insane. I didn't think too much of it. Um, but yeah, and then Amelia got it and she's probably one of the best actresses out there. She's amazing. >> So, I'm like, "Oh my god, it makes total sense." Yes, that that makes that makes more sense. And they did it and I'm so thankful that I didn't get it. >> Yeah. You wouldn't have gotten in and Bix is, you know, the only character I've tattooed on my body. >> What's the tattoo? It >> It's just a little X. You can barely even see it. It looks I have so many moles. I look like a chips a hole. >> I do. Now that I said it, no one's going to unsee it. >> No, we'll forgive it. Okay, so like let's jump ahead since you mentioned Andor because I mean I like many was obsessed with what you guys and Tony achieved on that. >> Amazing. >> Like >> he did the podcast like the smartest man on the planet. Intimidatingly smart. Like >> so smart. >> Like truly. >> I know. That's why I listen to everything he tells me >> and I do everything he tell I'm like yes sir. Mhm. I call him before every every job. >> Yeah. He's now a lifelong kind of >> mentor >> and he's incredibly busy, incredibly smart. He has a family. He has a whole life. He has he's in the editing room constantly now. He just directed a movie. Um, which I can't wait to see. Um, and he will always answer a phone call in the first two rings. Like he's the classiest man in the industry for sure. >> So, was that the arc of that character? Did you know it right from the start or was that an evolution in terms of like did you know I mean literally last shot of the series is this you spoiler alert. >> Um when did you know kind of the extent of like where Bicks would end up? >> I knew months before we started filming season 2. >> Yeah. >> He but he everything Tony says he delivers. There's never any If Tony tells you something that's exactly how he's going to do it. >> Yeah. He he's like the least BS guy on the planet. >> Less BS. So he's like, "Hey, listen." And when I signed up for the show, first season. Um I hadn't read it and I was like, "Well, Tony, with all due respect, how can you expect me to sign up to something if I haven't read anything?" >> Yeah. >> And you know, he's like, "Trust me, this is the character, whatever." And and he trusted me and he gave me the first three episodes to read. This was after I auditioned and got the role and the whole thing. Um, I was like, "Well, I need to, don't I need to write something?" >> Yeah. >> Um, he sent me the script and then he told me, he's like, "This character will change your life and this is sort of where this character is going to go." And everything he told me on that phone call happened. And then when it comes to season 2, obviously we expected to do four seasons or whatever. And the structure changed the structure changed. But even those beats that he promised me, they were there. he made sure that they were in there um somehow. Um so I respect that a lot from him. So yeah, I knew I knew quite early. >> Do you feel like the impact I mean you were talking you've talked before about like you know seeing someone like that looks like yourself in that context in the Star Wars universe like I would imagine you've had that experience now on the other side of it of seeing like young girls >> oh my god >> say something to you that must be extraordinarily moving. >> Oh no I thought you meant seeing more Latin like younger Latin American actresses. Well, that too. But even just like have you encountered I would imagine you encounter young women, young aspiring actors that now have you as a model. >> Oh my god, that's so scary. >> No pressure. >> No pressure, man. I hope I don't up. Um, yeah, I have. I have. And it's super inspiring the questions that they ask. And um, yeah, I've met a I've met a few. I've also met just fans to be like, "Thank you for, you know, representing us and being someone that I'm like, oh, that could be me." >> Yeah. >> Um, >> yeah, it's it's always really exciting, but also >> terrifying, >> right? That's You don't You don't want that to have that on you when you're doing the job. Certainly. >> Can there be more Latin American actresses that they can look up to them too? >> Spread the wealth. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to be the one person. I mean, we're now I feel like a year every year we're more and more and more and I see so many talented actresses just pop off and it's so exciting. I mean, it's it's I I root for them. >> Okay. A bunch a bunch of random things for you. Um, you're you're you're part of the Fortnite world in a very strange way. >> Weird. >> I was the first skin. >> That's what I as I understand it. >> So, that was just another job as like back then. I would imagine you had no idea what that was going to >> No, no. The game hadn't come out. Nothing had come out. They were under like crazy budget restrictions. It was like it felt like filming an an indie, >> right? >> Like they're like, "But maybe it'll work, maybe it won't." And then I did it mostly for my little brother. And then he didn't play it until years later. I was like, "Thanks. Appreciate it. Did this for you." >> Have you played Fortnite? Are you a gamer? >> No, I'm not. >> I'm like really bad at technology. >> That's okay. I'm I I know but I'm like desperately trying to be a Gen Z and technology is like not right >> my friend. So I don't know how that works. >> You don't have to you you're part of it. You don't have to do the thing. You did the thing rather. You don't have to play the thing. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. Thank you for that. >> I don't know. I don't know. >> Is there a silver lining? I've talked to Matt Smith is a buddy of mine. I've talked to him about Morbius a lot. >> Um >> it is what it is. It maybe didn't turn out the way everybody wanted. I don't know. I want to put words into your mouth. What's the silver lining of Morbius, if there is one for you? >> Ah, I got her. I got her. I found the spot. >> Look, you live and you >> you live and you learn. It was a great It was a great experience. >> Sure. >> It wasn't It was It was a great experience. I got to meet Matt. >> Um >> I think it's funny. >> Yeah. I think if you look at it with eyes of comedy, I think there's sparks in there. Um, yeah. I'm not I'm not so sure. >> Well, as I told Matt, you should know, I was on a flight once and I was sitting behind Kiana Reeves and he was watching Morbius on a plane. So, >> don't break my heart. >> I mean, >> I think Kiana Reeves is amazing. He's like, then I've never met him. Like like I just he seems so lovely and I really want him to think I'm like like good. >> Yeah. >> I I don't think he thinks I'm good. >> Let's not go there. Let's not go there. >> We'll get him some other movies. We'll get him. >> I'm going to get his email and start be like watch this. >> I did Splitzville. Can we give some love to Splitsville because not enough people saw I love Splitzville. >> Splitville. It was so much fun. Michael Coino is the wildest, funniest, most beautiful person I've ever met. He's the best. He came to the Onslaught premiere. It's what Kyle and him did. >> Yeah. >> You've done a disproportionate amount of like in a time where we're kind of like getting more conservative like sexy films. Like I mean truly like Thomas Crown Affair looks like the sexiest film of 2027. Like Switzville is essentially a sex comedy. >> Yeah. >> I don't really have a question here except like >> Josh I'm kind of sexy. >> I didn't kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That was disgusting. Um >> that was wonderful. That's our pull quote. That's our >> That's how you're going to start your interview. Obviously got it. I did that to myself. It's okay. >> You did it. Anytime your buddy J Jason's asked about you, that's all he says about you. She's hot. >> She's hot. >> Um >> yeah, I don't have the question. Well, let's ask >> I Well, to be fair, I think Splitzville is absolutely wild and I loved the conversation of open relationships and how Michael and Kyle sort of tackled that. I thought that was amazing. Hitman, I think, is like a romantic comedy thriller. And in a moment where romantic comedies felt like they were never going to come back because the genres were being flipped and switched, I read Hitman and I was like, "Oh, I get it." Richard Linklair figured out a way to bring this sort of genre back. And then so many people not have done what Hitman did, but in different ways, you know, have reinvented it for for themselves. And I think it was a cool discovery of like, oh, romantic comedies that we knew don't necessarily work as well. And then there was a time there where like the man was the woman and the woman was the man. And we would watch and be like, I don't want to be that guy. I don't want to be that girl. >> This is weird. Totally. Um, so it felt fresh and exciting and a little bit riskier. So I chose that. Amzad's not very sexy. It's not very It's not sex. I'm >> sure to somebody. I'm sure it's there's something for everybody. >> And then Thomas Crown, you know, Thomas Crown is such a It's such an iconic film. And then getting to be directed by Michael and getting to work alongside Michael, I was like, "Yeah." And it's this like cat and mouse dynamic. and I had never played that. Um, >> I it should be said for those who don't know, I mean, you had to jump into that, too. That must be a tough experience as an actor. I mean, >> jumping in mid-stream >> and that's a high-profile film, a lot of pressure on Michael and the whole crew. >> Um, was it kind of I can't imagine it was easy, but can you talk to me a little bit about like jumping into that? >> Yeah, it was challenging. You know, I I I got the role. Um, I got on a plane. I think it was like a Saturday, landed a Sunday. On Monday, I was on camera on a pretty easy day, but with a crew that's, you know, they didn't have a movie the day before. So, it every the tension was on and I remember I did my first shot and I got an applause, like a welcoming applause from the crew, which was the nicest thing any crew has ever done >> for me. Um, and I felt welcomed right away. We did play catchup for a second. You know, there's a lot of stuff that >> I was rereading the script every night. There's costume fittings, this, that. But Michael has such a beautiful energy when he films. He kind of makes you feel at ease and and that he's got your back no matter what. So, I was able to jump into it. You know, I was like, "Man, I'm ESL. It's a lot of lines. I need more time." And he's like, "You got this." And because he just kept reinforcing the fact that I >> Yeah. >> had it. I was like, "Okay, okay, you're right. You're right." Um, >> well, that trailer oozes like more than competence behind the camera. Like, that guy's got >> Oh, yeah. He's he is insanely talented in front of the camera and, you know, >> off camera. He's incredible. He's such a good director, too. >> Let's see. What other film should I ask you about, Audrey? >> I think this is We're running out of time. I think we don't have that much time. I think it might be lunch. >> Lock the doors. Okay, I'm not going to get you into trouble. Don't worry. >> Oh, good gun. Just going to play with this for a second. >> So, you have wrapped Man of Tomorrow. We're all very excited about this. This is James Gun's new film. This is the Superman sequel. >> A couple questions, and you I'm not out to get you in trouble, I promise you. >> Did you know what role you were auditioning for when you went in? >> Um, yeah. >> Okay. Did you We're not going to say what character you're playing because who knows? It could be Maxima. >> Could be. >> Could be. No, no, no. >> I'm just going to say here's here's some context for you. I don't know if your buddy Jason who I've talked to him for many years. Mimoa. >> What? Jason. >> Jason Mamoa. >> Oh, Jason. My buddy Parker. >> Jason Mamoa. Many years ago, I talked to when he was cast as Aquaman. the rumors were going around and I said to him, "There's this rumor going around that you're Aquaman." And he denied it and he said to me, "Josh, >> I'm not Aquaman. You can punch me in the face if I'm lying to you." >> I've heard this. I've heard this. >> I was that guy. I'm that guy. >> And he let me punch him many years later. I mean, I bobbed him. That I'm not going to punch that guy. >> I'm not I don't want any physical violence here. Don't get me wrong, but I'm just saying for context, >> I don't want you to make a bet. I'm I'll bet you $500 you are playing Wonder Woman. >> Okay. And what what about Maxima? You got to give one for one. >> So I I I'll give you $100. I'll give you $500 if you play Maxima. >> It feels like you're going to lose either way. You're giving me $500. I'll take this bet. I like Wait, wait, wait. If I play Maxima, I get 500. If I play Wonder Woman, I No, I get the 500. I get the 500. >> Oh, you get the 500. >> Yes. Would you take that bet with me? >> $500. >> Yeah, >> it's a lot of money. >> We can do it for charity. We can do it like, you know. >> Yeah, I like the charity element of it. >> You want We'll take that bet. >> $500 you donate to one of my charities. Exactly. $500 I donate to one of your charities. Feels like >> this is a win-win, right? >> Win no matter what happens. >> Eye contact. >> Unbroken eye contact. >> Okay, without saying anything about the character, this was a fun experience. This is a full circle moment for you. You've worked with James and Peter way back when on Belo. Did it feel a little bit like I don't know. It's a big set to be on. It's a lot of pressure, but still. >> No, it felt pretty full circle. It felt really It felt really cool >> to just be I have my little I don't know if you can see my purse, but I have my little chain. You can see Superman. >> They gave that to me. Um >> yeah, I felt really full circle and I in an interesting way. I don't I think we're the same people, you know. I've known Peter for a really long time. I've known James for a really long time. They're so incredibly successful. They're like the head of DC. They're all, you know, >> they just seem like the same cool, funny people, and it felt really refreshing to to I mean, I've seen them throughout the years, of course, and we've caught up throughout the years, but to see I hadn't been on a set with them. Um, and it's always nice to go back on a set that you in which you know people of course >> you know it happened only to me and andor did that happen where I got back and I was like oh >> I I know everybody here and it and it feels really refreshing and you're like okay I'm safe I'm >> especially if you're playing an iconic character you want that security blanket. >> Would you say your costume is epic iconic? Do you like your costume in the film? You could say that if you're playing Maxima. >> I love I I love >> unbroken eye contact. What happened to that? >> Hello. I'm over here. >> Do you like your costume? I'm not asking you to You shot the film. They can't fire you. >> Peter and James. You're killing me. >> I'll let you go after this. I promise. Do Do you like your costume? >> I love my costume. >> Cool. >> Really like my costume. >> Okay. Can't wait to see it. >> Both great costumes. >> What does that mean? >> Both meaning the both characters. Yeah, if you if you are a fan of the comic. Both of them. >> Maxima a fan over here. Huge. >> They have great They have great character. They have great costumes. >> I can't talk. >> Yeah, we're good. >> I'm going to do the rest of this interview in Spanish. >> It got Something got hot in here, right? Okay, we're going to end with this. I'll let you go. I promise. Happy second to profoundly random questions. How you feeling? You good? >> No, I'm not good. Are you kidding me? My whole life is in the line and you're just with me. >> One might say you're with me. >> I'm not. I'm sorry to secrecy and I don't like secrets. I hate secrets. I'm so bad at them. >> Those are the wrong line of work. Okay. >> Profoundly random questions. >> Yes. >> Dogs or cats? Oh, >> uh, dogs. Okay. >> What do you collect? I collect Vivian Westwood uh corsetses. I >> That's a first here. I hadn't heard that one before. >> I love them. I think they're amazing. Um >> I collect all sorts of kind of little things. Anything orange? Um I will buy. >> That's your color. >> That is my color. Yeah. >> Okay. Do you have a favorite video game of all time? Not Fortnite. >> I don't I don't play video games, but um I do I did like Pac-Man. >> Okay. Classic. I'll have you know Dakota Johnson asked me this. I ask everybody this question. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one be in your butt? >> Did she ask you that question? >> Yeah. >> It's horrible. >> I know. >> Um I maybe in my mouth. >> Wow. Minority. >> I don't want >> That's fine. >> I don't want that. >> Okay, we're not going to do it. Don't >> I don't want that. >> Okay. >> What's the wallpaper on your phone? >> My niece. >> Lovely. Last actor you were mistaken for >> Jessica Alba. Great. By the way, please I hope it happens more. It like lifted my ego for a really long time. I was like I said yes. >> I was like see. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Since City, right? Wasn't I didn't I kill it? >> Wasn't I amazing in Honey. I honestly I felt like I felt like >> Yeah. It made my day. >> What's the worst note a director has ever given you? Um. Oh, this is really bad. Do that with less of an accent and less domesticated. >> That isn't good. >> It's horrible. >> That's not good. >> It was It was a Somebody overheard it and it was a problem. I didn't say nothing. I was like, "Okay, whatever." But yeah, >> that's early in the career. I would imagine that's >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Um it was like a scene where and it was in a house and I was like you know organizing or whatever before I said my line and he was like less accent less domestic being domesticated. >> So I was like great be less Latina is what you're talking awesome cool. >> What was the relationship like after that? >> I mean with ignorance you just have to you're like >> you're not going to >> ah man we're like all right well now I'm not going to listen to it >> now I know anything >> what I'm dealing with exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Good to know. notes from you anymore, sir. >> Uh, finally, in the spirit of happy s and fused, he's an actor who always makes you happy. >> Will Pharaoh? >> Yes. >> Love him. Or Jack Black. >> Amazing. Well, V is just here and it's magical in that scene >> in this. >> It's the best. >> A dream of mine is to meet meet him, but I'm also scared of him. >> Oh, he's exactly what you want him to be. He's the best. Movie that makes you sad. >> Um, movie that makes me sad. Oh, man. There's so many. It's hard to pick one. >> I mean, cinema parody. So, this is one of mine. >> It kind of it's I don't know. It makes me hopeful for cinema and it's so beautiful in so many ways. Um, the last movie that made me cry was Project Hillary. That kind of broke my heart. It was so beautiful. Um, but not sad. It didn't make me sad. What movie makes me sad? The notebook. >> Yeah, >> The Notebook. >> Apparently Ryan Gosling movies make you cry. >> Apparently Ryan Gosling makes me cry. That's our warning for today. It's got that special something. And finally, a food that makes you confused. >> Food that makes me confused. >> You don't get it. Why do people eat that? I don't. >> That's not for you. >> I don't understand eggplant. >> Okay. >> It's weird. >> That's come up a lot here. >> Yeah. I don't I don't like anything of it. >> Is it the texture? The look? >> I hate the texture. I don't like the look. I don't like it. >> >> Yeah, eggplant's not is um I think beets too. I don't get it. Why do you >> Why do you Why would you do that to yourself if you were confused about it? >> Yeah. >> When you're eating it. >> Yeah. >> And then after you're eating it, you'll also get confused >> before, during, and after. >> Before, during, and after. Why would you do that again? >> Yeah. Not me. >> And then add cheese to it. Psycho. >> You could add chocolate. I would still hate. I don't care. >> No. Go cheese and beets. No, not for me. >> Do you feel good about what we did here today? >> Yeah, >> 90% of it at least. We've been on a roller coaster of emotion. Hopefully I didn't get you fired. >> I'm okay. >> You didn't do anything. It's okay. >> This was harder than filming Onslaught. >> Wow. That's And I know enough about this movie to know that's a lot. Um, good. Full circle. You brought us back. Congratulations on Onslaught. Yeah, you're well. You're well trained. Um, everybody check it out. Support Audrea, Adam Windgard, the whole company. Um, great to connect with you today. Thank you. Thank you for the time. >> This was so fun. >> We did it. >> You're so good. But you didn't get me. >> So close. >> Not this time. >> And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't to do this by Josh.
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