So what Satan does is that he exposes people at a young age to pain, to grief, to nakedness without covering. And so they don't have any idea what it's like to be taken care of. In the midst of that place, that's where Satan comes for their souls. And he begins to rewire their minds and teaches you different kinds of principles for survival that will eventually separate you from God himself. as we have Apostle Ezie with us. Now, here's something so interesting. So, I mentioned to you all that we literally had 40 days to to put this together and I randomly ran into an interview you did. It was on the deep end. Yeah. And anyone if you know me, it takes a lot for me to just like I I I glean from different people, but for me to just feel connected to someone, it takes a lot. And I was watching Apostle. See, I went to my husband. I said, "You need to listen to this woman of God." I said, and I was like, "Babe, no. Come, come, come." I was like, "I feel like I'm watching my big sister or something." And I, you know, I prayed about it and I just there was just a knowing that no, you're supposed to be here at the gathering and I was like, Lord, we are just I don't I can't remember how many weeks or two weeks or something away. Um, but I was like, if if this is what you desire, you would stare it on her heart and you're here with us today. And so, Apostle Lacy, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, we're going to be having a conversation on healing the soul. You know, when we talk about our role in the kingdom and proclaiming the kingdom, you know, we're dealing with your assignment. The the you know, the God is is also known as the father of spirits. We're we're talking about when your spirit man is awakened to the truth of who you've been ordained to be before time. But how that is expressed in time there is a wholeness that you have to step into. Especially when we talk about the soul realm and I'm just going to pass it on to you apostle talk to us about the significance of the soul when it comes to how God the the the makeup of man. Thank you. Um, just before I answer that question, first of all, thank you for having me here and I like to say that I feel the same way. I remember the first time I actually saw a video of you and you were sharing something God had just spoken to me about um some days before and I was like, why do I feel like I'm listening to someone who I'm in the same tribe with. So um I get why we're both sitting here today. So thank you for your obedience. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Um okay. Yeah, you passed it over to me. So, yeah. Um, so just thinking about the soul, I mean, when when you sent me the message and you just said, you know, healing of the soul, I thought to myself, why would you think I can share about healing of the soul? Because to be honest with you, that week I just had a conversation with God. Um, and I just said to him, God, I feel like there are parts of my soul that still need healing. Um, I feel like there are things that I still do not understand completely, but I want you to teach me and explain it to me. What am I missing? And so, I was just on this vulnerable journey with the Lord um where I was saying, "Heal me, Lord." And then you're like, I'm like, "I don't think I know what to say." However, um, I believe God jump started a conversation with me because of this conversation. We all know that when we talk about man, we say man is a spirit that has a body and um man is a spirit that has a soul and lives in the body. We all talk about this tripartite um nature of man. But I feel like as Christians we focused a lot on the spirit of man as opposed to the soul um of man. And we know that all of this began from the book of Genesis when the Bible says and God um molded the man and then he breathed into man the breath of life which is the ruak Elohim and then man became a living soul. Now one of the first things that I think is important for us to talk about is the fact that um the man that God created he created from the the soil. he created from the earth and we know that Lucifer had already fallen to the earth and so everything on the earth carried the record of obedience on the inside of it. Now God still intentionally created man from that same dust of the earth which naturally had the capacity for rebellion. Now he molded man in his image and then he breathed into man the breath of life. And that was like the the thing that powered that structure called Adam. And then it was that breath of life that made it possible for Adam to become a living soul. One of the things that God started to emphasize to me about the soul was that man did not just become a soul but he became a living soul. And that in itself is a verb. So the soul is an active realm. The soul is a realm that is constantly engaging in activities. Now there are three parts of the human being. We know that the spirit. But the spirit is the god consciousness that consistently connects with the father god and is consistently aware. That's where you have your conscience and you know all of that interaction and impartation. But the body is um this realm that connects with the earth, the earth consciousness. But the soul is the self-consciousness. So that's the realm of the individual where you have your will, your emotions, um your passions, your desires, your mind, your heart, your intellect. And so at the end of the day, the soul is really that part of the individual that forms your personality. Um that forms the core of who you are. And I I thank you for asking that question because I believe that foundationally that's where the true warfare is because if you lose your soul and you lose your person, you no longer have the capacity to engage effectively here in the earth realm and in the heavenly realm. Powerful. Yes. You see, the scripture tells us that what would it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul. And I love how you broke it down because even when you think about the personality of man and you think about the soul of man, it's the seat of your emotions, your intellect, and your will. So even the place where your will is captured to follow God, to walk in obedience, to be an ambassador is in the soul realm. Now we know that as believers, you cannot be possessed by a demonic spirit. But you can be oppressed even to the level that they can have expression through your vocal cords. And and that takes place because of the soul realm. because your spirit has been submitted to the Lord, but they could be fragments in the soul. You know, something that the Lord taught me even when it came to deliverance, which was so interesting, was that there would be and it often happens where he would show me a fragmented piece of a person's soul. Because sometimes when you have experienced trauma in your life, when you have experienced, you know, molestation, especially when you're a child, you don't know how to process it, you don't know how to talk about it. And so there is a piece of your soul that's literally like broken off. And what often happens when we deal with strongholds in the mind, strongholds when it comes to our will, like you you you've given your life to Jesus, but then you're struggling with, okay, God, I I've given my life to you, but there's this place in my life that is really struggling with submitting or struggling with receiving from you. And sometimes what the Lord would show me is that he would there's a piece of their soul that is wrapped up by a demonic spirit. Yep. And so it has become so one with that part of you that what it feels like is protection to the traumatized child. And so when you have dealt with let's say you dealt with molestation and now there is a demon of lust that wraps itself around that piece of you and now you feel like your power is in being promiscuous. And so you think that this is just me. I just want to have fun. and I just want to have a good time. Or if it could be a demon that expresses anger and you think that your anger is your protection, like this is just how I am. I don't like when people talk to me anyhow. And you don't realize that a demonic spirit has wrapped itself around that fragmented piece of your soul that it feels like your personality and it's not. And that's why those ones are harder to deal with. And the Lord began to show me how he would go in a person's past. Because here's the beauty. We serve a God who is alpha omega. He's the beginning. He's the end. He can you can be right here and the Lord will deal with something that happened to you when you were five. And then as we begin to declare it, that's when freedom begins to happen. But I also want us to talk about because when we talk about the soul and even the the brokenness that takes place in the soul that begins to distort the personality of man, the mind of man, the will of man, a lot of it is rooted in what happens to us as children. And I want you to just expand on that as the spirit leads. Fantastic. Okay. So, Satan um plays the long game and he is a master at projecting disqualification into the future. And so what he does is he hears a prophecy that the seed of the woman will bruise the head of the serpent. And he knows that it's not the seed of the man. The man is the one that carries seed. The woman has the womb. So automatically he can tell that the woman is going to be impregnated by someone else who is not a man. And so what does he do? He comes, he corrupts um the DNA of humanity so that by the time that supernatural pregnancy happens, there will be no pure bloodline that can cause the prophecy to come to pass. So he's trying to disqualify humanity from receiving salvation before it's time. Now that's how Satan works. So before the future manifests, he goes into the child and he starts to impute um destruction and he starts to try to rewire the child through different kinds of trauma. And when I say the child, I'm not even only talking about because our lives are in different phases. So it could be the child in terms of when you're a little child or it could be the child in terms of a new phase of life. Maybe you just started ministry and he makes you go into certain traumas in ministry that begin to rewire your mind about how ministry works. So it's different levels of childhood that Satan infiltrates. Um that being said, you kept talking when you were speaking Job, you kept saying wrap yourself around. It's like he's wrapped around you. It's wrapped around you. And I kept thinking about Acts chapter 8, the sto story of Simon the sorcerer. And um here is the apostle. He's laying hands and people are receiving the Holy Ghost. And Simon the sorcerer says to him, "Let me give you money so that I can get this power." Now the response of the apostle is shocking because you would have thought he would say to him, you know, "How dare you, you know, demon and all of that, but rather he says to him, he says, "Your money perish with you." And he says, "I can see that your heart is not right with God and bitterness has engulfed your heart." And he says, "You better repent." Now when you read that entire passage in you read the Greek words and all of that that is used basically what the apostle was saying to him was that your heart has been poisoned by bitterness and he said to him that this wickedness that has come out of you is because of the bitterness on the inside of you and you wonder what does bitterness have to do with let me give you money. So you then begin to see that what the apostle was saying to him was that foundationally there is a poison that is powering your system and that poison has come from a brokenness on the inside of you. So when we look at Simon the sorcerer the Bible said he had given his life to Christ. He was part of the church and all of that but still there was something deep down on the inside of him. His intellect believed God. his mind believed that Jesus was Lord but his will his soul had not been given to the gospel. So that was what the apostle fished out and said listen um just because a person is sitting in the church and has become a huge part of the service of ministry it does not mean that the person is whole. Now we don't know what happened to Simon the sorcerer. But one thing that we do know is that whatever trauma he experienced brought him into the place where he was more about performance-based than relationship based. It had brought him into a place where he said give me this power. He didn't say give me this Holy Ghost. So he had brought him into a place where he was more about I want to have authority but without relationship. And that's what happens to a lot of people. So I say to people when you see God moving and the first thing that comes to your mind is how you want to serve the move or how you want to represent the move as opposed to knowing the God behind the movement. It's a sign that something is broken on the inside of you. And you see this um consistently in scripture. So for Simon, we don't know um what could have happened to get him to a place where he felt like he constantly needed to perform. he felt like he needed to um show up as someone who had power. But that happens to a lot of us um maybe as children. And sometimes even in life, it could be betrayal and stuff like that. And that what that does is that it begins to say to you, it begins to rewrite your inner man. And it begins to say to you, you know what? You should hide. Um you should never expose yourself. You should never be comfortable in vulnerability. And the moment you feel the need to hide a portion of yourself, that darkness that you are hiding in is where the enemy begins to fester. Now this is why people like the psalmist began to say the Lord restoreth my soul. And so if he says that the Lord can restore your soul, that means a soul can be lost. So you begin to see different ways in which souls are lost. Now there are different ways in scriptures by which souls are traded in the realm of the spirit. Now, of course, we know that in the time of innocence and vulnerability is a time of trade. But there are also certain factors like you look at Revelation 18, the Bible began to speak about Babylon and began to speak about the different things that Babylon trades in. And it spoke about a time when the system of Babylon would end. And when gold, silver, and all of those things, nobody will buy it. But it also says nobody will also buy their slaves. Neither again will they be able to trade in the souls of men. So that's to tell you that Babylon was a system of captivity that did not only take wealth but it also took souls. Now the question is how did Babylon trade in souls? And you remember the Bible speaking about Lucifer and saying Lucifer how you have fallen by the abundance of your trading iniquity was found in you. So you became rebellious to righteousness because you entered into the engagement of profit and loss. So one of the ways in which souls are traded is when you get encompassed by what do I stand to gain, what do I stand to lose, how do I get this, how do I get that. And so there is no pure relationship anymore in your life. But people do not get to the point where they are all about trading until something has first been broken on the inside of them. Um, I remember I'm just going to use myself as an example. I remember I went through a trauma um in 2020 and I remember one day I'm laying on the floor and I'm weeping and I started hearing myself saying, "God, I cannot take it. Like I literally will die. I don't think my heart has the capacity to pump blood and pump this pain." I said, "What? Something's going to give give, you know." I said, "God, I'm going to die." And God said to me, he see, you need to allow yourself feel it and you need to allow yourself go through it. He said, if you don't, you are going to begin to look for mechanisms by which you're going to protect yourself. And he says, the protection mechanisms that you're going to set up, they will keep you safe in a way, but they will keep me out of your life. And he says, you're going to become a prisoner of your own pain. And so God began to speak to me about the power of vulnerability in the midst of nakedness. And God said to me, what this trauma has done is that it is like the fruit that Adam and Eve ate. It has opened your eyes to see another level of the brokenness of humanity. He says, "And the first thing you want to do when your eyes are open is you want to pluck the leaves and cover yourself." He says if you do that, if you take care of your nakedness yourself, you will never know what the power of God is like to keep you safe. He said the glory upon your life is a product of my covering over you, not the leaves that you pluck. So what Satan does is that he exposes people at a young age to pain, to grief, to nakedness without covering. And so they don't have any idea what it's like to be taken care of. In the midst of that place, that's where Satan comes for their souls. And he begins to rewire their minds and teaches you different kinds of principles for survival that will eventually separate you from God himself. You know, when you talked about vulnerability and even as you shared your story, something that came to mind is that why this conversation is so key is because there are times that you can have demonic influence in your life, but it's dormant. And it is and and it there's some situation that begins to stir it up because you see sometimes just like you mentioned Satan plays the long game. When he sews seeds in a person you don't see the fruit immediately but you see the fruit in an opportune time. When all the elements align then it begins to sprout up. And there are times that you don't even know what you're dealing with in you until certain circumstances begin to arise. You know, when you talked about vulnerability, it reminded me, it's just that looking back, there are things that the Lord began to teach me. I remember when, you know, I I encountered the Lord. I was 9 years old and I just I fell in love with Jesus in such a pure way because he literally changed my life. But as I got older, when I got into college, I didn't want to be the Jesus girl, you know, because in college, everyone is having a good time, you know, people are drinking, they're smoking, and they're making it look cool. And I'm over here, you know, trying to preach the gospel. And people just, they were not, it's like they just looked at me as though I was weird. But the thing is, that was my truth. And I was struggling with the vulnerability of the fact that I love Jesus. And even and I think even why this is even key even as I'm highlighting this is because we are in a time where you professing your faith not just that you love Jesus but what you stand for and what you are against are things that you want to hide. And so you have people in places that they're like I don't need to talk about this. I didn't need to say this. Let them just see my life. But there are times that the Lord is like, "No, be bold about who you are. Make it known what you are for and what you're against." But in this time, I just felt like, "No, Lord. I just I just want to hide. I just I I don't really want to show people this." And all of a sudden, something began to influence me. Because there was something in that atmosphere that brought agreement to a demonic influence that had been dormant in my life for so long. And then all of a sudden, I said, "You know what? I don't want to do this Jesus thing. I want to have fun. And it it was like night and day. Something in me in it like instantly changed. All of a sudden, I started having an appetite to drink. I I started back then they had this thing called flavored cigarettes. I I was scared of anything that could influence my mind like marijuana. I said, "Oh, no. I'm not touching that." But I was like, "Oh, cigarettes. All right. That looks cool. British people smoke, you know." And and I started taking flavored cigarettes. will sit outside the dorms like the you know where you have your like literally in front of people walking to class and I thought it was cool but I became another person and looking back when the Lord by his mercy began to show me myself where look how far you've fallen and then re I realized that I love Jesus I was I I was following the Lord but I was dealing with demonic influence and I did not know it. In that moment, you're thinking that this is just me. I just want to have fun. But that spirit manifested itself when it had agreement with my way of thinking. It had been so dormant for such a long time because of things I experienced in my childhood that when there was an opportunity to say, "Let me have fun." That spirit just sprung up and say, "I will help you." And so, and so there are times that you don't even realize. And I love we're having this conversation because the Lord began to show me that he is going to stir things up. He's going to bring things to memory so you realize this is not you because you cannot be delivered of a spirit that you find identity in. Even when I talked about control earlier that I was a controlling person, I remember my husband my my the Lord telling me your husband will heal you of things you don't understand. And I did not know that that controlling personality was never my personality. It was the personality of a demonic influence. And so, Apostle, I just want you to just expand on even how there are moments in life that we don't realize it. And I think sometimes we deal with the shame that you can love the Lord, you can be about the Lord, but yet you are dealing with demonic influence that you call your personality. Thank you. So I always say to people that there are always two parallels in life, good and evil, Issa and Jacob. Um Joseph and his brothers, there are always two possibilities. Even as individuals, there are two possibilities and two pathways to the lives you could live. Many times you don't know what the other pathway looks like because you did not venture there. Many times as Christians we think that um living out the the the life of Christ is independent of what we get to do or what we get to decide. But it's not true. Every man born of a woman is born into troubles. That's what the Bible says. From the moment we are born, we are carrying not just our blood as it were, we are carrying the experiences and we're carrying the altars of the people that have gone before us. And this is the reason why in the mercy of God, he has given onto everybody choice. So that when you come into this world, even though you are a recipient of circumstances that you had nothing to do with, you have the power to choose who you're going to become. That being said, there are certain things that I will never do. And I was saying this to somebody recently and they were like, "Apostle, you I was like, yes." I said, "The reason why I won't do it is because I know the history of my family line. I know the troubles and the altars and the daties that were served in my father's house and the ones that were served in my mother's house. And even though I have found the Lord, I also understand that the way the spirit realm work is that spirits are consistently waiting to see when I break the hedge and they're just going to jump right in. And the newly imported demons are not as powerful as the familiar demons because the familiar spirits, they have record. They have seen how it worked in your grandfather, your father and they know how it will most likely work in you. So I said to them, I said so there are certain things I will not do. I said even in my marriage there are certain positions I take and you look at me and you think I'm a fool and the reason why I take it is because I have seen a pattern and I know how that dity manifests itself in the women that worship it. And so even though I'm born again and I'm a Christian, there are certain levels of anger I will never display in my marriage because I know that the moment I display it, it becomes an open door. And the moment a demonic spirit sees anything in you that looks like it, you have given it access. Now that being said, you said something you were like, you know, while you were in school, you you you know, you did you didn't really like live out the faith. um you didn't want to say because of that whole thing of I don't want to be vulnerable. There is something I usually teach people. I say conversation is the door to realms. Any conversation you partake in opens onto you the realm from where it has come. And so any realm you don't want to enter, don't have a conversation about it. So the serpent was able to pull Adam and Eve or pull Eve into the realm of death the moment he began to have a a conversation about rebellion with God with Eve. Now many times as Christians we think that we can escape realms um when we still host the conversations of those realms. But you need to understand that the Bible says that the worlds were made by the word of God. Every time a word is spoken, a door is open. And behind the door are the spirits that govern the realm from where that door has been opened from. So any real you don't want to step into, don't have a conversation about it. Um, government begins with words. Um, and so the moment you don't speak up loudly, you most likely will be taken very violently by the enemy. And many Christians think that we are called to be tolerant. But we are actually called to be violent. And violence does not mean spiritual violence does not mean physical aggression. It just means that you take a posture in your spirit that is consistently pushing against the gates of hell. Because if you are not consistently pushing against the gates of hell, it's going to invade your space and it's going to invade your life. Now that being said, I usually say to people that I don't know where we got this doctrine of Christianity from today where you find that Christians are consistently trying to domesticate demons. You cannot domesticate a demon. They are naturally wicked, violent and they are there to take you out. It's very simple. And you know I we have this whole dancel in distress syndrome where we think like it's cool and it's beautiful for everybody to have a problem. And so you know you know I have you know I struggle with this. Everybody has a weakness. You know it's just the thing that I'm dealing with. You don't have to have a thing you are dealing with. Can I say it in my Nigerian accent? Yes. You don't have to because you you need to understand that the Bible says where the word of a king is, there is power. That's right. And you are a king. If you do not legislate against it, it's going to access your life. And so I say to people, the reason why many Christians are having demonic infiltrations or oppressions is because they are tolerating the demons. You are not called to tolerate. You're called to cast them out. So and the demon may not necessarily be just a demon around you. It could be a demon that has been let into your life. Now there are many ways in which you can be infiltrated. And pastor Stephanie was talking about it as she was saying how something that was already dormant, you know, received access. For example, there are things I did not know that I had as a struggle until I married. And there are things I did not know I had as a struggle until I became a leader. And so many times you realize that your growth is usually intertwined with your struggle. And so it's almost like your struggles are tailor made for your growth and your growth is tailor made for your struggle. And so every time you come into a season of promotion, you want to beware because it's going to reveal to you the things on the inside of you you haven't dealt with. And if you deny those things, the enemy is going to hop on it and use it as an opportunity to infiltrate and control your life. Because in the spirit realm is all about taking responsibility. Hey, Adam, what is this that you've done? It's not me. It's the woman. Woman, what is this? It's not me. It's a serpent. Serpent, what is this that you've done? Yeah, I did it. And the next time you see him having authority to show up in heaven where the sons of God were gathered because he took the authority from the man who did not take responsibility for his wrong. Every time you discover on the inside of you that there is a weakness, there is a propensity to do evil, you need to address it. You need to address it. Don't pat it. Don't make make it up. Don't put wig on it and high heel and then you call it, you know, it's a you give it a medical name. No, don't do that. You need to address it because every darkness that you don't shine light upon becomes the festering place of hell. And that's why many Christians carry a lot of like demonic manipulations in their lives because we really don't know how to deal with things. If I'm just going to be practical, so for example, if I find out that maybe I see Pastor Stephanie's Instagram post and you know she's doing the gathering and powerful things and maybe if I look at it and I'm likeh anyway sh well God be praised the kingdom is progressing you know and then the next thing I look at pastor Schollah's post and I see something else on something he's done that is powerful and I'm like eh anyway it's is because he's in the UK. He should come and do it in Nigeria. And then maybe I look at another person. After that, I should say to myself, is what's going on? Why are you jealous instead of celebrating the work of God? And I should know it's not about Pastor Stephanie. It's not about Pastor Schollah, it's not about the other person because the spirit of the prophet is subject. So I should be able to go back to God and say, "God, I'm jealous." And the moment I start to pray about this jealousy and I start to say, "Lord Jesus, something on the inside of me is no longer comfortable observing your hand upon the life of my brothers. Lord, you need to help me." The moment I start to do that, the spirit of God is going to show me that part of the sabotage programming that hell had put on the inside of me through my bloodline is that I would not have the ability to bear the increase of others. And so when the time came, the programming began to work. And all of a sudden, I that used to be happy for people, I'm no longer happy for people. And so the moment I find that I have to begin to pray and I have to denounce wherever I had agreed with that programming and I had said oh you know this is how we are in my family we just keep to oursel we don't even talk to other people we don't look at what no no it's not how we are because you see man became a living soul it's a verb you should be progressing and making a journey in life so if I find a personality at any point that does not suit my calling and ordination. It is a call to God that it is time for me to make the next journey into becoming a better person. So you must question any personality that is not a reflection of Jesus. That's right. Never agree to a definition that is contrary to the word of the Lord. Amen. The moment you agree with it, that becomes the access way through which the demonic will start to operate in you and through you, defiling many around you. You know, there there was so much that you just unpacked and you know, even just as you're listening, just be just be praying in your spirit. Lord, there are things that I'm going to catch, you know, mentally, but there are things my spirit just needs to have sealed on my heart. I mean, Apostle, you know, but as you were speaking, there was something the Lord reminded me of, even when it came to the music industry, there was a time that I was just sitting with the Lord and he said to me, "If I was in this generation, what songs would I sing?" And what he was teaching me is because Jesus, his words were never careless. Because whatever he speaks, that's what it is. If he speaks a thing, that thing will be established. And so in when he said, "If I was in your generation, what songs would I sing?" And that was in a time where the Lord began to teach me about the power of words and the subtleness of the enemy to have you come in agreement with things and you are it's it's almost unknown to you. So when you talk about that there are conversations conversations open realms. We have to be it's it's really like the posture of intentional living that you can't just be a careless Christian in how you do life because then you can't even trace what opened the door. You can't even trace if it was the songs I was singing if there's no discipline in what you listen to. You can't trace if it was what I was meditating on my heart because of a movie that I was watching. You can't really trace the access or the entry points of the enemy. You know, something that um I always watch my husband do that just inspires me and it's very subtle when we take our daughter to, you know, the the her pediatrician's um visit and maybe they need to give her a shot or a vaccination or something like that and the nurse would come in and the nurse would tell us the side effects, you know, they'll say, "Oh, these have these side effects. Is it okay if we administer it now?" And my husband will say, "It doesn't have those side effects over my daughter." And in the presence of the nurse or the doctor, he says, "Give me the the you know the syringe." And he prays in front of them, he says, "The side effects that belong to others will not belong to my child that I mark this with the blood of Jesus." And here is the testimony. No matter what vaccine she's gotten, she's never had those side effects. There were even things that they're like, "Oh, this one would really hurt. It would make her cry." And he says, "Not my child." He says, "Give it to me." He says, "This syringe I command you, you will not make my child cry." And she will take it and she will not cry. And then she starts laughing and she starts having a joyful time. And I remember, you know, and I would look at him and I'm like, because for me, I'll be honest. I'll be like, you know, let me just pray in my heart in this moment, you know, and he says, "You have to take authority. You cannot let another person speak a word over you and you're just smiling and nodding." Oh, okay. Okay. because it's subtle. And when we think about how the enemy works, we have this idea of, you know, spiritual warfare only looks like when a demon shows up in your room. But there is an indoctrination of what happens in culture, in language. That's why when the enemy is after territories, he's after the language of the territories, the language of the industries. And so even when you say you know what I'm just dealing with you you start personalizing depression you personalize anxiety you personalize things that you're like well this is a term in this field but who influenced the field that is what kingdom people start to think who influenced this language that makes me want to personalize what I'm dealing what what whatever I was uh battling I would even say dealing with what I am in warfare with in this moment Because when a person goes to war, you don't identify with the enemy. You recognize that I am in a battle against this enemy. You don't say I am the enemy. But because the enemy knows how to indoctrinate language, we start to take it on as though it is. And here is the thing. When something becomes cultural and not just cultural in terms of media, in terms of what's on television, cultural in terms of even industries, even the medical industries, even in psychology, even when you visit your therapist and they say, "Well, you just are dealing with this. This is who you are. You have to accept it." And you don't realize that another spirit being is influencing the language of those industries. I remember when I I you know there was there was a season in my life where you know the Lord the Lord just opened my eyes. It was it was a traumatic season just when you were talking about trauma because out of my disobedience when the Lord told me to wash my hands of a particular individual I didn't I thought I could be more loving than Jesus and I took this person in and not knowing all along this person was a witch. And so because of my disobedience, the Lord had blinded me from seeing that this person was actually a witch on assignment against my life. In the Lord's mercy, he opened my eyes and you know, he leads me to a time of prayer and fasting and everything became exposed. But it was just traumatic for me because imagine you're sitting with someone you call like a sister. And the things I saw in the the manifestation of that person as in the witchcraft. I mean it it's things that you it feels unbelievable. And so I was just traumatized. I said how could this person all these years you are you are on assignment to kill me and I did not know it. And I thought that the Lord's way of helping me deal with coming out of that situation was maybe, you know, let me go on a retreat. Let me go on vacation in, you know, somewhere. The Lord then tells me after that, I want you because it was literally, you know, I had my place, but when the Lord was exposing this person cuz at that time she had some financial trouble. So I told her, "Hey, you could live with me while you get yourself back on your feet." So when this whole thing was exposed, the Lord had told me to go to like an Airbnb and be in prayer and all this stuff. And so that season passes and I'm thinking, "Okay, let me go back home." The Lord says, "No, I want you to go to another Airbnb now. I want to just spend time with you. I want you to just get away from your home and everything." And the Airbnb, so I'm looking at Airbnbs and I'm looking for the fancy ones. And the Lord is like, "No, no, no, no." And the one he chooses, he says, "Go here and I'll meet you there." And I the day that I walked in, I just broke down crying. I called one of my best friends and I was like, "I can't be here." Because when I walked in, in the bedroom, there was this huge poster of Buddha. I said, "Now, Lord, I just came out of a witchcraft situation. Now you want me to fight Buddha?" And I was like, "Oh no, I am not staying in this bedroom." I was sleep on the I was just destroyed. I said, "I'm going home." And my friend encouraged me. She was like, "You don't know what the Lord wants to work in and out of you. Stay there." And I remember just being in that place. And I was just so like I I just felt down. And I started taking on the identity of depression because I was like, "God, why would this be the place you send me to next? you should send me to an island somewhere and we could talk about this eating coconuts. Instead, you sent me where there's Buddhist statues and all manners of things in this house. And he wouldn't even respond. And I started taking on the identity. I started speaking it with my mouth that this is what I'm this is what I'm going through. This you know what? I'm dealing with this. And I remember I was feeling heavy and heavier and heavier and heavier. And then one day the Lord opens my eyes and I see this spirit in the room and it was this big that the spirit was just massive. And he takes me back in time when I first came to the Airbnb. And I saw that spirit was slim. And over time, the spirit just started becoming bigger and bigger and bigger. And he says, "This is the spirit of depression. And I brought you here to get it out of you." Because your reaction reveals where you stand with God. How you react in circumstances really reveals what is in your heart. So when God wants to uproot things out of your heart, there are places and positions he brings you in because how you react with your words and language begins to show you what you could be vulnerable to. And he said it has nothing to do with your depression. It has to do with your agreement with the enemy that is against you. Something is trying to come and overtake your space and you are allowing it. And why you feel like you are suffocating, you can't breathe because in the spirit realm, this thing is taking up this whole room and you don't even know it. And now you're using, you know, psychological terms to define your problem. And it's not even your problem. It is your battle. It is what you are at war against. And so apostle let you know just talk to us about why we have to be so intentional because the soul is extremely vulnerable and and there are times that you may feel like your soul is submitted to the Lord but yet your soul is submitted to the flesh. So Apostle just kind of help us through that. Okay. you you've just said shared an incredible story and I think it lays a fantastic um background to the question you've just asked in terms of why it's important for us to be should I say very sensitive to the soul and how we treat it. While you were speaking, I was saying to myself, many times as Christians, we don't know. We don't know that every time we're moving through life, we're moving through realms. And so, we see the story in Genesis 28 where Jacob is making a journey and he's making a journey to his uncle's house, Laban. But he comes through this place. The Bible says that that night he laid his head, he slept, he woke up the next day and he began to declare that God was here and I did not know it. Now, that was a positive encounter that Jacob had. But do you know that that's the same way that we go through places and deities are there and we did not know it. Satanic altars are there and we did not know it. And what exactly was that altar that was speaking was an altar that Abraham had erected two generations before? And so every time people set up altars and people set up places of agreement, they become markers in the spirit realm. People die, but the spirits that they serve never die. And so the spirits are consistently in key places and locations. Now, if we're going to talk about the soul and the sensitivity of the soul and the vulnerability of the soul, you need to understand how certain things interact with the soul, one of the first things that I want to talk about is like um an altar to alter interaction. And it's one of the things that God tal told me about. And I said, "Lord, why does my husband have the ability to maybe provoke me in a certain manner that other people don't?" And the Lord said to me, "It's not about your husband and it's not about the you that you know, because every time two people get married, it's not individuals that marry, it's altars that marry, it's covenants that marry." And so the Lord said to me that there are certain um interactions that happen in the realm of the spirit. It's the same way that um if you put maybe certain elements in a room and I'm talking about scientifically some may cause an explosion and a reaction and some will not. In the same way in the spirit realm there are certain configurations of certain people's spiritual dealings from the past and your spiritual dealings and your journey that the moment they come together it has the capacity to create a spark of fire and some don't. He said to me I set both of you up for a purpose. But you have to understand that the enemy also has history. And so within the the the the file that Satan has, he also knows that if these two people get married, they are setting unhealed things on the inside of him and things he hasn't dealt with spiritually and things he hasn't dealt with spiritually. And when these two things meet, it will always cause a fire. And so God began to say to me that don't argue anymore. You people don't have a physical problem. You have a spiritual problem, you know. So you have to go deal with the spirits that are managing those altars that were handed down to you in your bloodlines. But you also have to uproot the places of worship in your soul because it's the soul that can be lifted up to an idol according to Psalm 24. And he says as long as you have not dealt with it, you are allowing it to remain in you as an idol. So I am owning it and thinking this is my position. And every time we fight, I'm telling him this is what I think. But it is not I really thinking it. It was programmed into me, delivered to me as culture, and I have received it as a position that is now wrestling against my husband. And so God had to say to me, you need to learn to deal with it because this is a vulnerability in your soul. And as long as he is who he is, it will continue to cause a fire. Now that being said, another thing that can also expose the soul is locations. And I thank God you spoke about the Buddha statue. You know, there's this story in the Bible about Naomi and Ruth and how Naomi left um Bethlehem and went down to a Moabitete city and she lost her husband. She lost her sons. We tell this story, but you know when you think about it spiritually, you realize that there are certain locations that have the capacity to trigger inner weaknesses on the inside of you. And so when you become a person that God sends on assignment and you have to travel location to location, one of the first thing you begin to realize is how certain locations affect you. And you step into certain locations, you deal with depression. You set into certain locations, you can actually begin to struggle with loss. And I found out that many Christians do not embrace spiritual intelligence enough to understand that your soul is vulnerable to locations configuration. So when you enter a location like Naomi and her husband and children did something was in that location that had the capacity to take them out that when they were in Bethlehem they were safe but when they came into that location they became vulnerable. And so your soul is usually vulnerable to the things that have been erected in certain locations that you are unaware of. Now that being said, you then begin to see her response afterwards. What did she start to say? She said, "Don't call me Naomi. Call me Mara. Call me bitterness." She began to profess a new disposition of heart, a new disposition of spirit and personality. Now, Satan was not done with that bloodline just yet because he knew that there was a capacity for Ruth to become the wife of Boaz and then to become a woman in the lineage of Jesus. So, he was determined to take them out completely. So her professing to be bitterness became a gateway that could have kept them in Moab. So that forever and ever a generation and a bloodline that could have been passed down to bring forth Jesus would have been corrupted and would have been cut short from actually fulfilling its purpose. Now, so you then realize that locations play a role, words play a role, the altars that were erected play a role. For you to be a safe and a secure Christian, you must understand that everything is consistently speaking. And so you must always be speaking. You can never win the battle of life in silence. Never. And the Bible says, "Let the weak say I am strong. Let the poor say I am rich. These days we call it Odin days Christianity. When if pastor Stephanie hearing like how you do I'm like blessed and highly favored. Ah the hand of the Lord is upon my life. Woo bouncing in the Lord. They are like ah please. All these you know these are oldtime Christians. But guess what? They knew something that we are failing at today because the Bible says let the weak say. It didn't say let the weak say I am weak. Today we celebrate things that we call openness, vulnerability, truth. Oh sister, I thank you for how plain you are. The way you you open up to us. Don't open your demons to me. I I don't appreciate it. Do you get? So today we celebrate people talking about, oh, you know, how I have this sickness, you know, how I'm struggling with this addiction. Why are we celebrating the confession of troubles and we no longer appreciate the declaration of victory? So when people say, "Oh, I'm struggling with this." You love them 100,000 followers cuz the person is telling you 100 days true anxiety. How about the pastor that is sitting there or the believer telling you you don't you you don't have to be anxious. You can fight that demon. You can fight that spirit. make these declarations with me. We are not celebrating declarations of victory. We are celebrating proclamations of brokenness. That in itself is a lie in this generation's culture. And it's part of the things that is weakening the souls of men. Another thing that you know can leave our souls vulnerable is when we are not willing to make the effort in righteousness. And I found out that one of the problems we have that can corrupt our soul is our addiction to power but our lack of discipline in acquiring the power we we desire. So you find out that many people want to enter the heights of the spirit but they do not want to labor in the valleys that take you there. So when you are that kind of Christian, it can expose you to divination. And because divination is the back door to the spirit realm and the moment you are exposed to divination, anything can infiltrate your soul. You look at the story of Lot and his daughters. The Lord came to deliver them from Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible says concerning Lot that Lot while he was there, he vexed his righteous soul daily. So the little righteousness that was left in Lot was consistently vexed. But he never took his bag and left. Many of us as Christians, we are vexing our righteous souls daily. You are sitting in situations that do not stir up righteousness in you. You are sitting in places, friendships and relationships that consistently corrupt the holiness on the inside of you. So your soul is being vexed consistently. The problem with remaining in situations like that is that you are not only exposing yourself but your generation. By the time the angel came to deliver them, the angel said to them, "Go to the mountains." But they said, "Oh no, no, no. Lord said, let me go to this city. Lot is doing the same thing again judging from the weakness of his soul what his next step should be. He was using his eyes to say I rather do city than do mountain. Mountain is the place of consecration is the place of encounter. Is the place where God asks you for your Isaac. And he's like no I'm not going to the mountain. Let me go to the easy place and go and join people again. But what he does not know is that that word for city is the word police which also means warfare. So every time you have a struggle in your soul, part of what Satan does is that he makes you gravitate towards the warfare that can come out of your struggle as opposed to going to the mountain. Lot was not willing to make the sacrifice of ascending the mountain, going into the place where righteousness could override brokenness. rather I would rather go be with people, hide it again and act as though I don't know that God literally just destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Now if you are not willing to make the needed journey, you will see it play out in your future generation. His daughters were virgins but their souls were not virgins because by the time they went to that place, look at what they did to their father. They slept. These were girls that he said, "Let me give you my virgin daughters." So outward morality does not equate to spiritual rightness or righteousness before God. So they had not slept with men, but they had the spirit of violation on the inside of them. Where did it come from? A father who did not know how to bring government and governance around the soul. A father who pitched his tent outside of Sodom and the next time you see him, he's in Sodom. A father that did not know how to draw the boundary lines of preservation within the places of emotion. He allowed his eyes to be subject to harotry and homosexuality in Sodom. And so it became the natural disposition of his daughters to celebrate brokenness. Eventually, they violated him and they gave birth to Moab and they gave birth to cities that could not have an inheritance in God. Every time you joke around with your consecration and the boundaries that preserve your soul, you are exposing future generations to brokenness and disqualification. Wow. You know, I think a good place with every conversation, there was something in particular that the Lord was going to highlight that needs to be broken in the room. And just for a second, the music, but even as you were talking about just even when it comes to the language that we say this is old Christianity and so when you hear people use it today, it it comes up with a feeling of like fakeness and you know because like I know for me I'll be honest you know when someone says beloved I'm like this is King James but you know but no but all jokes aside there is a conviction and a revelation that birthed that those sayings. And the difference is in our generation, we say things religiously. You know, how are you blessed and highly favored? But it's but there's no conviction behind those words anymore. So, it's been taken lightly. It's been taken as the thing that religious Christians do. Because when you speak from conviction, it is known. That is the reason why when Jesus would teach, they would say that he speaks as one with authority because he was not just reading things for you to hear him. He had a conviction of the words that he was speaking. And that conviction really comes when there is a renewing of the mind. And something in particular, you know, earlier when we had the first panel and we talked about um proclaiming the kingdom and you know, I've just been in prayer about just every conversation we would have and something in particular that the that was just highlighted to me that needed to be discussed was marriage and that's where we talked about it. But even as we we now shift to renewing the mind because the mind is in the realm of the soul. And the scriptures say as a man thinks so is he. So when you when the enemy can win the battle of your thought life, the battle of what shapes and governs you know how you think about certain things, it begins to shape your reality. And there was something the Lord began to show me about the gathering and the grace that is just upon what what is taking place even now. You know, we were earlier we were walking around to see there are people in the overflow rooms. There are people that don't even have a screen. All they have is headphones because they're not here to gather for people. They're here to gather for the Lord. And the Lord began to show me that there is a grace for an opening. There is a grace for birthing. Not only in the natural where there are women who you know maybe you've been struggling with conception but there is also a grace spiritually where you feel like you've been hitting a roadblock over and over and over again but that there are there are the nations that are going to be revealed and activated in your life. But there was one particular area that we must confront. And when you talked about culture and what is acceptable because it is passed down under the guise of this is culture in our generation today and you're going to see this increase. You're going to see where there's going to be more offense. Um, there was a video I watched of a lady having an interview about just a street interview talking about abortions and the lady she was interviewing ended up literally hitting her to the point where she was bleeding because of her offense of her conversation. But this is something that has been passed down in culture as my body my choice. But why I'm bringing this up is because there's two folds when we talk about abortion and there are people the Lord is after and just as we continue just just give us give us room for what the Lord wants to do. But there are twofold because on one end, you know, often times we talk about abortions, but we only think about women and we don't realize there are also men who pushed and were in agreement because that was also their seed that they encouraged the girlfriend, the ex, the whatever to say, you know what, go ahead and do this. I'm not ready for a child. There is one part of it that is a you because when you you know again when we talk about abortion people often will say what about medical conditions and this and that but majority of why abortions happen is not because of a medical crisis. It's because of self pleasure and self- ambition. This child does not fit within my timeline. And when that is the word of agreement in your heart, that child be was now a sacrifice for self. And in the spirit realm in even when you study the Bible, every sacrifice is unto a deity. Every sacrifice is unto a spirit. Every sacrifice attracts a spirit dimension into your life. And that is not a sacrifice unto God. That is a sacrifice that begins to attract different realms of the demonic to have legal access in your life. And so then all of a sudden people don't realize that because of a decision they believed it was my body, my choice or it was just you know what I I'm just not in a this is not the time. I still have things to do when I get to this age blah blah blah. But you don't realize that what promoted that decision was pleasure. So I sacrificed the child for pleasure. You you you you sacrificed the child for self- ambition. But what spirit did you attract in that exchange? And how is it manifesting in other areas of your life? Because there are times that you don't even realize that why I'm experiencing what feels like death in this direction was rooted in another action. The other part of it is that the scripture tells us that children You see when when it says I and my children are born as signs and wonders and some translations will say signs and warnings to Israel. Children are openers of seasons. Children come with certain signs and wonders in your life. And what people don't often understand is that even when you choose on the altar of pleasure to say, you know what, I'm going to sacrifice this child. You don't know that there is a season that you shut over your life. That there is a season because the Bible tells us that times and seasons belong to the Lord. And when you don't know how it shows up and it manifests, but children come with signs to a generation. They come with signs to a family. And when we make these selfish decisions, we don't realize that we just shut what the Lord wanted to do. I've seen it with my first child with her pregnancy. There was an announcement the Lord gave me of what will begin to happen in my life. This is the sign she is carrying. And I'm seeing it even now with the child I'm carrying. And so why I'm sharing this because as we continue, we're going to hit on different things. But Apostle, I I want you to just, you know, unpack this a little bit because I believe there we're going to pray for people to repent and let the seasons be restored unto them and let every legal door that was opened by an abortion that was either decided by the woman or encouraged by the man that as you come before God in repentance of that decision. Because often times in our Christianity, there are actions we take and we don't even think we need to repent of it. It's like, you know what, I did that and it was just the best decision I could have made in that time. But if you don't, there is still a sign of agreement with that spirit that you gave access to. And so, Apostle, can you speak into that? And then we're going to pray for those people and then we continue. Thank you so much. Um, you know, you started by talking about culture. When God was going to create a nation out of slaves, what he did was that he gave them ten commandments. And the ten commandments were filled with things they should do and things they should not do. how they should leave, how they should eat, how they should interact with one another, how they should engage with their neighbors wives within the commandments of God. God began to rebuild the people, began to reset their culture. And so what God was doing, God knew that it was going to take maybe one, two, three, four generations before they began to reflect what he wanted them to reflect. But he gave them commandments and the commandments began to form their culture. God could have just killed all of them and raised a bunch of holy people. But why did he give them commandments? Because even God understood that culture is the vehicle that carries covenants. And so whenever a deity makes a covenant with a person or a people, what the deity does is that the way that he continues to perpetrate that covenant through generations is that he locks the protocols of that covenant into a culture. And so in the daily living of the people, they are servicing the altar without even knowing that that's what they are doing. And so those protocols are locked into different things like the form of worship, songs they sing, dance steps that they make, um the food they eat, how they eat the food, the way they talk, the way they dress because every altar has got requirements. It has requirements of its priest and its priesthood. So all the priests and the priesthood service the altar through these cultures like dressing, singing, talking, eating, engagement, all of that. And that's why God gave them the ten commandments. Within the commandments, they are able to uphold the covenant that he had made with them. Now that being said, she spoke about how over time there has been this culture that has been given about abortion. And what people do not understand is that every culture answers to a deity. Every culture is delivered to a people and it's the way by which a deity preserves his intentions for those people. So you want to ask yourself which deity really stands to benefit from abortion. No matter how you defend it, just leave the defense alone and ask yourself who is benefiting? What does God stand to benefit from giving a soul and then letting people kill the soul? He doesn't benefit anything. Remember he said people say, "Oh no, but what if? What if?" He said, "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you even became anything, he says, I already ordained you to be a prophet." That means ordination does not start when men lay hands on you. Ordination does not even begin in your mother's womb. It begins before you enter. So that means the moment a soul is killed whether as a fetus or as a baby you have killed an ordination you have killed an office you have killed a living breathing soul before God. Now that being said you then begin to understand that every time that God set up new seasons upon the earth it was marked by men. You look at the dispensations of time. The dispensation of innocence was marked with people like Adam and Eve. You look at the dispensation of conscience. Yes, Adam and Eve, but you see Cain and Cain's heart and the way he felt about the offering. And you go further down, you begin to look at things like the dispensation of promise marked by men like Abraham. Dispensation of law marked by Moses, dispensation of grace marked by Jesus, the disciples, all of us. Every time a new season is to be born, God sends a man and a people. And the people become the marks that stand between the earth and the heavens of the new arrival and the new day that has come. Every time a child is killed, the calendar of the heavens and the earth is being distorted. Because children and people do not only introduce life, they introduce seasons. They introduce times, they introduce the heart of the heavens on the earth. Because every human being is a gatekeeper that stands between both realms. So whenever God brings a human soul, God is introducing his intention for a new day. So whenever a child is killed, we are distorting the calendar. And the effect of it is not only on the person who distorted it, but the generation who watched it happen and said nothing about it because they were too careful and they did not want people to say you are anti- this or you are anti- that. I am anti- anything that is anti- good. Cancel me from your church. cancel me from I don't care. I don't care because you see someday you are going to thank me when we get to heaven because I fought for John the Baptist to keep his preservation and John the Baptist eventually fulfilled his ministry which led to the arrival of Jesus. Someday you are going to thank the people who told John the Baptist hold on in the wilderness. Today you don't appreciate the voices that are supporting what is not convenient for you. But someday you're going to be thankful for them because their ability to uphold those who were called for seasons is the reason why you are guaranteed you will see tomorrow. Now that being said, you then realize that for every time that an abortion is committed, it is not just the act that is the problem. It is the spirit that is released to the act. So pastor Stephanie said something. We talk about only the women. We don't talk about the men. But there is a spirit of abortion that is at work. Recently I was reading the story of Judah and Judah's house again and how his sons died and how one of the son that did not have a child is like hey go sleep with your brother's wife. And then he would go in there and he would sleep with her but spill the cement on the ground. And God saw what he was doing. And God was angry. And you ask yourself, why was God angry? You know, I mean, why was he angry? Because he was spilling life. And that whole thing triggered a process in Judah's house. And you realize that there was a spirit at work there. The sons were dying. The daughter-in-law was not getting pregnant. something was cutting short the lifeline of that family. And so every time you embrace abortion, you are actually introducing your bloodline to an abortive spirit. And so it began with children. It will enter business. It will enter ministry. It will enter relationships. It will enter finances. And then you will realize that every time things show up, you have the capacity to make it grow. but you never see the harvest of it. You have favor upon your life. You meet people all the time, but it never becomes established relationships. People call you into rooms that you have no business sitting in, but it never results in influence and progress. And you ask yourself why. It is an abortive spirit that has entered. And for spirits to be able to work consistently, they must have a legal ground. This is the reason why when you have gotten yourself into a situation, it is expedient for you to renounce um denounce those altars and to repent. Before we go into prayer, I I feel the need to explain when it says in Psalm 23 that the Lord restored my soul. Now, that word for restore, when you read it in the Hebrew text, the the word actually is the word for repent. He says he restores my soul. He basically repents my soul. Now you ask yourself, a soul that is broken, you most likely did not most likely did not break yourself. Sometimes we break ourselves if we'll be honest. But why does it need repentance? Now the way the Hebrews see repentance or when you actually understand what they meant, it wasn't talking about, oh, I did this. I I'm sorry and I go back to the former position. It's actually talking about from now going forward you are living differently. Now what happens is when a soul is broken you no longer are you are no longer on the right path that was set for you. That's why repentance is important because in the brokenness of your soul you veered out of your course of life. So people whose souls have been broken even by situations like abortion, what happens is that you are no longer living out the life God called you to live. You begin to make alternative versions of life. Now um the word for repentance is also the same root word where um the word Torah comes from which is the word of God. But Torah actually means to hit the mark. So for you to be able to get back on the mark that God has set for you, you're going to need the word of God to help you hit the mark again. So true repentance is receiving a word from the Lord that sets you back on the course of life. The brokenness of soul is to remove you from the course of life. Cain, be careful. Sin is crouching at your door and he desires to have you. Cain does not listen to God. He goes ahead in anger. He kills his brother. What happens is that Cain leaves the presence of God. He builds big cities. They set up all kinds of things, technological advancements, all of that. But guess what? Seven generations down the line, they are all wiped out. By the time God is talking about the history of humanity in Genesis 5, he does not even mention Cain. He just says, "And Adam begat set and set begat." Cain was still living for seven more generations, but in the memory of the heavens, he was gone. Why? Because he did not address a matter in the soul. And then what happened was that he was giving birth to children who came into this world and thought that they were living, but they did not know that they were no longer in the history of time and eternity. So for every time you do not address the brokenness in your soul because it says so um Cain sin is crouching at your door and he desires to have you and that Hebrew word for desire is the way that a man desires lustfully desires a woman to have sex with her. That's actually the Hebrew word. So God was saying, Cain, because of your inability to address this brokenness in your soul, sin is now attracted to you and it wants to make babies with you. So you have to master it quickly, deal with it quickly. Cain did not listen to God. What happened was that he eventually became the baby factory for sin and he began to raise generations like men like Lamek who boasted in murder who boasted in all kinds of sin and polygamy. He raised generations that were the reflection of the lifeline of sin. And so many times when you don't repent what happens is that you will continue living. You will probably get a good job. You have money. You have cars. You have houses. But you are only producing a future that is carrying the seed of sin on the inside of it. That is why you cannot determine God's peace with you based on the progress you make in life. The sign that you are prospering is not a sign that God's shalom is with you. You understand what I'm saying? So you have to deal with the dust. You have to deal with the dust because the serpent comes for the dust. You always have to take care of broken humanity. If not, the broken humanity you don't take care of becomes the food that the serpent comes to eat in your life. Now if you say abortion has existed, it is expedient that you acknowledge that this that I have done is wrong. We are still fighting all kinds of worldly theologies in our head. sit trying to believe. Say, "Okay, but in a situation, but in a situation, can you just leave all these situationships alone?" His word is year and amen. He is the beginning and he is the end. He is the finality on every decision in eternity. The angels don't argue with God. Why is it the sons that should have his nature that argue with his decisions? There is a corruption within us. Our inability to engage and break out of the corruption is the reason why we are not repenting. So you must acknowledge that Lord I have fallen short. I have fallen short. I have not lived the way you expected me to live. I made a decision in foolishness. I made a decision out of the the the the impact of demonic voices in my life. and I'm sorry. In the midst of the repentance is not just saying you are sorry but while we begin to pray you have to allow the Holy Ghost minister to you because it is in true repentance the Holy Spirit begins to show you what has been stolen from you because many times we think we walked in power. We took a decision and you walked in power but you don't understand how negotiation happens in the spirit realm. Satan makes you believe that you are in charge while you are going about to make a decision that is contrary to the will of God. He then takes away from you that which is most valuable. So he says to Eve, "Hey, you know, you will not surely die. Go and eat and eat the fruit." She thought she was making a decision, but she didn't know that on that table she was trading her authority for the need to have a voice. So, you're going to acknowledge that Lord, I took liberty into my own hand, but I entered into captivity unknowingly, and I'm sorry. Show me what I have lost. Show me what has been broken. Show me what has now been passed down to my children as an abortive spirit. Show me how this is taking away opportunities, stealing seasons, stealing my voice, my confidence from me. Show me the gifts and the graces that I have lost by reason of what I have done. And as the Lord begins to show it to you, we will begin to renounce. Renounce every single thing that followed the abortion. And every time you covered up the brokenness by creating new standards of life, you're going to renounce it. You're going to repent from it. And then we're going to ask that Holy Spirit, let your light come out of this darkness. Amen. Let your light break forth and let creation begin in my life. Yeah. Amen. Can we just take a moment to stand and be in prayer? And even for those in the overflow rooms, for those that are, you know, tuning in online, just know that wherever you are, the spirit of God is right there. And just take a moment to just lift up your hands before the Lord. If looking at people will make you distracted, just close your eyes even in this time. And Apostle, I just want you to lead us in prayer. Can we pray in the Holy Ghost? Everybody across the hall begin to pray in the Holy Spirit. In the name of Jesus, we declare that this is not just the place that we are standing on. We decree that we have entered into the trading floors of the spirit where ashes is exchanged for beauty. The spirit of heaviness is exchanged for the garment of praise. We ask oh God that you would open the gates of the spirit unto us and that you will make it possible baba for the things that we speak about in this place to cause a ripple effect in time and in eternity in the name of the Lord Jesus. Father, we ask that the spirit of revelation will rest upon us right now, that as your sons and daughters begin to pray, that the eyes of their understanding will be enlightened. We reap every veil of darkness, every covering cast of hell, we command you to be consumed by fire. We decree that in the name of Jesus as we begin to pray in the Holy Ghost in the next two minutes, let conviction hit this room. Let the wind of conviction enter this room. No destiny will be locked up anymore. No soul will be locked in darkness. Begin to pray in the Holy Spirit. Ask the Lord to open your eyes. Ask the Lord to give you the capacity to see. Ask the Lord to show you the things in your destiny that was traded. Ask the Lord to help you understand the gravity of these sins and the things you have not repented from. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Open our eyes, oh God, and cause us to see. We come against darkness. We come against the spirit of blindness. We come against that coldness of soul that makes it hard for men to repent. We send fire to the root of our soul. We send fire to the root of our soul. We declare that this is the turning point. This is the breaking point. In the name of Jesus, Satan, we say to you that we have drawn the bloodline in this place. You will not be able to infiltrate what we are doing here tonight. We declare that the fire of his consecration is all around us right now. And we declare that the mercy of God by which men can be reborn into strength that the mercy of God is in this room with us in the name of Jesus. Right now I want us to pray. If you know that as you listen to us, your heart began to burn and there is something on the inside of you. We talked about abortion. You're going to repent from that. It could be other ways in which you have aborted destiny. Other ways in which you have compromised, other ways in which you have sat in coldness and lethargy and your soul was dragged into captivity. For the next two minutes, I want us to begin to repent. I want you to begin to say, "Lord, have mercy on me. Lord, forgive me." We have come into our pineal moment like Jacob. And I want a believer who still has ferency in their spirit to begin to pray. Cry out to God, thou son of David, have mercy on me. Have mercy on my soul. Have mercy on me, Jesus. Forgive me for the days of compromise. Forgive me for the days I should have stood up. Forgive me, oh God, for the jealousy in my soul. Forgive me for the lying tongue that I yet embraced. Forgive me for the addiction I have refused to deal with. Forgive me for embracing the spirit of fear. Forgive me for being the one who divides. Brothers, have mercy on me. Oh God, in the name of Jesus, I want you to repeat after me. Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus, I acknowledge I acknowledge that I have fallen short I have fallen short of heaven's expectations. I no longer deny I no longer my weaknesses my weaknesses or brokenness brokenness. Lord have mercy on me. Lord Lord, I repent. I repent for the abortions that I committed. The ones I actively participated in participated and the ones that I supported or sponsored. God forgive me. Forgive me for the days you called me to war. and I chose ease. Forgive me for the days you asked me to raise my voice. And I chose to be silent. Forgive me for the days you told me to run and I chose to sit still. Forgive me, Lord. from today. I denounce every connection that I have every with spirits that arose from the mistakes I made. I made I reject my connection with them. I reject I severe every cord of connection to them. I declare by the power in the blood of Jesus by the power of that I am set free that I am set free I receive I receive the liberty that is in the blood of I agree I agree with the mindset of deliverance the mindset of deliverance I receive the culture of Zion the culture of Zion I declare I declare that he that The son sets free is free indeed. I declare I declare that I am free. I am free by the blood of Jesus. For one minute I want you to make those declarations. I am free by the blood. I am free by the blood. I am free by the blood. Every connection with death, every connection with deadness, I am free from it in the name of Jesus. My life will no longer experience abortions. My destiny will no longer experience the spirit of death. I declare that my children are free. I declare that my generations are free. I declare that my future is free. In the name of the Lord Jesus, I se the cord of connection. I reject any alliance with any demonic entity that wants to propagate death and deadness in my life. I break their chain. I severe their cord. I declare that in the name of the Lord Jesus, my voice is free. My soul is free. My spirit is free. I receive the freedom that is in Jesus in the name of Jesus. And so, Father, we give you praise and we thank you for liberty that is in the house. Thank you, Father, for the mighty deliverance that you have walked in this place. Father, back it up with signs and wonders. Back it up with dreams and visions. Let them see it. Let them feel it. Let them experience it. That they would know, oh God, that you have honored the prayers we have prayed in this place. May it be to the glory of your name and the expansion of your kingdom here on earth. in Jesus name we pray. Amen.
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