I could not be more excited for today's episode of the real stuff podcast I'm bringing on my two favorite humans in the world my brother Robbie and my twin sister Ally I posted a question box on my Instagram asking all of you what you wanted us to chat about in this episode and so we get into everything that you asked us everything from Rob's thoughts on having twins as sisters whether or not he feels left out how our parents raised us you know why we think we've developed such a close Bond all of our different life stages that we're currently at and if we ever feel jealous of one another or competitive with each other how we each feel about everyone else's significant others some of our most Vivid childhood memories we even do a really funny who's most likely to game at the end so stick around until the very end honestly I am constantly AED by my siblings they are both brilliant people they are two of the nicest people I know and they're not just nice like within our family unit or to their friends these are people who are nice to everybody they meet and bringing them on the podcast or you know in the past having brought them onto my YouTube channel I am always AED by how articulate they are because they're both very social people but I have to remember they don't do what I do for a job like they're not used to being on camera they're not used to being in podcasts definitely so so it is really amazing to just listen to them speak and to hear how clearly they communicate and I just love them so I'm very excited for you to hear this one please if you're loving the show leave us a rating and review on Apple podcast or Spotify as always if you're listening take a screenshot of a moment in the podcast that is interesting to you either share it with a friend share it on social media tag us at Lucy B fank at the real stuff pod my brothers at robj fank I won't give Ali's handle cuz as you'll hear in the episode she doesn't want to be public at all but I think you're going to like this one if you have follow-up questions don't hesitate to leave them down below in social media or if you're watching on YouTube drop them down there we will reply and we hope you enjoy here we go with the think siblings Ally Robbie Welcome to the Real stuff I don't want you guys to be nervous this is going to be so much fun we're already nervous you're already nervous I know but listen I just want to start off I know that a lot of my followers already know the gist of who you two are but can each of you just take a moment we'll start with Rob to introduce yourselves share your age share a little bit about your current life stage that you're at and your career path sure I'll start my name is Rob or Robbie depending on which life stage that I met you at I'm 34 years old I live currently in Jersey City with my wife Hannah and and our two dogs sad and Theo um I work at Spotify I've been in media and entertainment for I'd say about seven years now the big thing is as you maybe can see there's a little bit of a crib in the background here we're expecting our first child a daughter in August so a lot of a lot of nesting a lot of preparation and um yeah that's a little bit about me Al over are you my name is Ally I am 31 years old and I live in the suburbs with my husband Zach I work in the financial services industry which is what I've done since I've graduated back in 2014 and I am Child free currently so we're living it up as as dinks as they say dual income no kids I tell Ally every time I see her just remember you're a dink enjoy it yeah enjoy it while we while it lasts I put on my stories what do you want us to talk about on this sibling podcast episode and probably the biggest question that was submitted over and over again was aimed at Rob and it was a question about how it feels to be the brother of twins and genuinely you know one of the reasons I want to ask you this question is because there's an answer to this question that is just socially acceptable like oh it's great or whatever but I genuinely want to know if the two of us being Twins and having having the bond we have and the relationship we have and being two girls in the family has ever made you feel left out people want to know if you have ever felt forgotten well yeah it's funny I didn't know that you posted the uh the question box for people to submit questions and interesting that that's the most popular thing that's come up so far like thinking back to growing up I cannot really remember a time especially when we were younger when I ever felt left out or definitely not forgotten I think I always knew in in some intuitive sense that you guys had a bond that was special and Indescribable and something that is specific to Twins and something that I could never really compete with even though the word compete isn't really even appropriate here because I never felt like it was a competition but I guess in a sense the the socially acceptable answer that you were just referring to to is kind of my answer for 99.9% of my life I mean I will say it's it's interesting because more recently and it's nothing that's ever upset me or made me feel like genuinely any sort of bad way but I I feel like there are especially with you as a content creator and putting your your life and your story out into the world there are certain things that I've seen that I guess just like sting a little bit in in a mild way you know like the story about moving out of the house and all the memories and then I watch the video and I'm like not in it I'm like did I even live with you am I in this family what's the deal you know Allie's uh wedding recap video and it's it's almost funny because I don't know if I would even notice these things but sometimes Hannah's like hey looks like you weren't even in this video and I'm like you're right I'm not even in this video so again I'm just saying this because is it's the only thing I could possibly think of and I'm not genuinely hurt or upset by it but you know like I said for 99.9% of my life it was something that I acknowledged and was aware of and had a respect for but never really felt uh hurt by or left out by and I get that 0.01% thank you for sharing that with me and it has come to my attention not just from you but from some other people I think it was around that time of the weddings or the moving out when I was posting a lot of content and then I think I posted a story that was like by the way I have a brother too oh yeah because I'm pretty pretty sure I I texted you and I was like hey do I exist or or no not really sure and so I posted something that reminded people about you and I did get a DM that was like wait you have a brother and it's from someone who's probably been following for a while so I want to formally apologize any time yeah anytime I've made you feel given my career and just the things I'm posting like you don't exist because and I'm sure Ally can attest to this you very much you've always existed for us you've always been here for us I think that it's interesting we have this not only twin Dynamic but we also have the sister thing going on which is maybe a little different from brother sister but what I'd love to hear from each of our perspectives maybe we'll start with Ally is just the different unique Bond what one thing I love about the three of us is that each pair within the three of us has a unique bond to share with just one solo other person and they're all different like there's three different relationships going on here so Ally can you just talk about how you generally feel about your relationship with me and then what's unique about your relationship that you share with Rob yeah my relationship with you it's a little hard to like Whittle down to just like one simple explanation because it's just obviously that of siblings and friendship and family but it really is just like such a comfort in your presence and being with you that no words have to be exchanged no like experience has to be shared it's just like being with you or thinking of being with you or going places with you is just a level of grounding that I think is really hard to achieve with any other human and it obviously stems from like all of our shared experiences and all of the different ways that we can relate to one another but also we can just like look at each other and kind of take ourselves back to a moment in time and a memory that we shared together without even having to exchange words so it's just like so pure um in its form that it's just very hard to replicate with anyone my relationship with Robbie is something that I consider myself so lucky to have from obviously the standpoint of just like being the younger sister to this older brother who was always like so valued and appreciated by everyone people always looked up to you people always respected you you were the cool guy but you were nice to everyone You're athletic you're goodlooking there's I think always been so much admiration for you as a human in like all walks of life that you've been through so there there's that element of just like feeling so lucky to be like your little sister but I I don't know I think like just being being able to go through life with your guidance and knowing that I have you as like such an incredible sounding board and someone who I can really talk to like about any topic I mean there's nothing really that I wouldn't talk about with you but I feel like over time and after we graduate or after I graduated college I just feel like our bond has grown so much deeper past like just being siblings and I feel like we started to talk about things that best friends would talk about with each other that like maybe was a little bit more Awkward for us to talk about about as like older older brother younger sister when we were growing up in school and I I just feel like we share so many more elements of friendship now and I feel similarly to how you feel because you know we obviously have this special twin thing and then I have a relationship with Robbie I don't even know if I'm calling you rob or Robbie Rob sounds so weird to me you're Robbie to us he's always Robbie to us you're Robbie but I mean I have a my own relationship with Robbie that is like my older brother relationship but I'm curious from your standpoint Robbie how you feel about you have the two of us who are like both your younger sisters we're both girls and you just have a unique relationship with each of us so how do you classify the differences between those two relationships yeah well first of all Al that that really hit good good stuff I mean you never know this is your first podcast thanks it's interesting because I hear I hear you saying or Ally I think you just said growing up and and looking up to me and one thing that that I think is shared across my relationship with both of you is even though you're my younger sisters I feel like I've always especially you know post High School let's say I've always actually looked up to both of you in many ways and I mean I'll get into the specifics and I think there are are uh pretty strong differences between you know how that comes to life in my relationship with each of you but the share truth is that I admire and look up to both of you and it it's always kind of felt almost I don't know like a little bit weird that you're actually my younger sisters because in a sense I don't feel like you're both younger than me I feel I kind of feel like you're older than me in a weird way um so whatever that mean really kind of I mean whatever we can we can get into the into the specifics of what that means in terms of my relationship with each of you all right so Ally is someone who I feel like is my moral compass in life and Lucy maybe you can relate to this but I just feel like Ally always knows and knows what the right thing is and always does the right thing she's probably the most genuine and and thoughtful and kind person on planet Earth and you know I always kind of um assess and reflect on my own behavior and the way that I act in certain situations and stuff like that based on you know how how would Ally act in this situation because I really do look up to her so much in that way and as she kind of said we can just talk about anything and I always feel like she's there for me and whenever I'm going through something she's checking in and she's asking how I'm doing and I always try to do the same for her so there's obvious you know there's a lot more I can say but that's the the big thing that comes to mind and Lou with you I feel like I think back to when we were younger and we would both be staying up late when Ally was sleeping early sneaking down to the kitchen for a late night snack and just like messing around being silly goofing off joking about whatever and that kind of feels like a a microcosm to me for for our relationship I feel like you're the sillier one the more unpredictable one the stay up late one the the kind of more spontaneous one and I mean who knows if I've gotten that from you or you've gotten that from me or we've just both kind of developed it together alongside one another but that feels like a um a shared thing that that we have I also look up to you in in terms of your career and what you've built and how you put yourself out there every juncture in your career at every step every new thing um whether it's it's you know leaving a Refinery and starting your own business or more recently starting this podcast I'm genuinely such a fan of it and sometimes I ask myself like is this because this is my sister or is this just because I am so drawn to what this person is putting out there in the world and I've told you this before but this podcast is literally my number one favorite podcast I've listened to every single episode and I just love hearing the conversations and the the truths and the honesty that you draw out of people it feels so so raw and so real it is the real stuff after all but you know has somebody who also in a very different way puts myself out there into the world and and creates things it's really inspiring to me so I feel like that creativity and that kind of weirdness and wildness is a little bit of what defines our relationship wow thank you both very candid genuine you know just to tackle on to the Love Fest we're thrown out here at the start of the podcast I have to Echo all of Ali's sentiments about Robbie and specifically the looking up to you nature it's so interesting how we all really do look up to each other because my earliest memories of you Robbie are you being just this Allstar person but not just because you were popular and smart and athletic but because you were so nice and I actually remember one specific drama club boy that I had a huge crush on who he he who shall be unnamed he who shall be unnamed who was in your grade and was maybe not in the same crowd of friends that you were in but he would come over to the house to hang out with me and I just remember watching how nice you were to him and I actually think he liked you more than he liked me he I think he liked the fact that this cool boy in his grade was being nice to him more than he cared about coming to hang out with me but I was just so in awe of how you could be all of those things at once and on top of it the balance you have between the intelligence and the knowledge and the actual smartness level that you are with how simultaneously normal and cool and social you are is a very rare balance to strike I'm not noral you're a little normal and then with Ally I agree with everything you said and I feel like we have and all twins have if go through life the same way we did this really Indescribable life circumstance where every single circumstance we've been in we've both experienced together through two separate eyes and you know we went to elementary school together summer camp College together we did a lot of things together so a lot of the experiences that you recall I was standing right there watching it myself and obviously little experiences shape who you are and we've experienced a lot lot of the same things side by side what just wanted to point out when Robbie was saying that Ali's you know the most genuine or I forget what word you were using but I wanted to point out that my moral compass yes the mor well the moral compass and always knowing what's right and being genuine and being selfless I wanted to point out that I think I also maybe from being her sister and being in her friend group I feel like I maybe have a view alley that you don't get of her that is the side of alley that's like in a good way selfish the side that's like no no no I'm putting myself first I'm not taking from anyone all while being incredibly genuine of course but I think I do get because we're in the same friend group and we've had the same upbringing and been in more of the same experiences I have a little bit more insight into that in a way that you don't that makes sense and it's funny because well well first of all just to respond to what you just said directly I I don't feel like Ally is a totally selfless person in the sense that she will always put others before herself to to a fault because I totally get what you're saying and you probably see it more but I definitely see her as someone who's strong and who draws healthy boundaries for herself and makes sure that she and and her family and you know whatever else is is kind of taken care of before going out and doing things for other people but I see the little Windows of Ally getting pissed like what whatever it doesn't even matter what it's about but something's frustrating to her whether it's a family conversation or someone else outside the family who's doing something that's annoying and I I almost kind of love seeing that because it reminds me that she actually is a real person who has limit to her patience and it just it gives me even more respect for her because it's not like she's some some kind of like robot who's just constantly calm and at peace and you know always just you know all the things I mentioned before but she's actually a real human who goes through some of the same frustrations and struggles that we all do oh yeah this this girl can be ruthless we all know I'm a real human a lot of questions came in about sibling rivalry and comparison and specifically if there was anything that our parents did to Foster us being close or to make it so we didn't feel pitted against each other or if we just felt like naturally on our own valtion we wanted to be close and liked each other what do you guys think I'm sure they had something to do with it right like the fact that the three of us have been so close over the course of our lives really you know at this point by choice because because we just seek each other out as so much more than siblings there has to have been something that was you know deeply rooted in the way that they raised us and the way that they emphasized what siblings are to one another and it's interesting because mom's an only child so you know she never really had that experience of her own but yeah I mean I I would think it's definitely a blend between the way that we were taught and the way that we just bonded with one another I think that would obviously be a great question to ask Mom and Dad because I would love to know the answer because I would love to have you know when I build a family I would love to Foster this type of closeness yeah what what is the secret I wish I knew like I I have two thoughts on this question first of all just thinking back to growing up I can't pinpoint any like one specific event or one specific thing but kind of more generally I feel like there was always an emphasis on we' always come down and have dinner together as a family there was a lot of just things we did all together as a family family trips and and stuff like that and I don't know I don't have the the best memory but I've actually recently been cleaning out before Mom and Dad moved out of the house been cleaning out just like all this old stuff that I've kept over my life and was kind of reminded based on these like birthday letters that you guys wrote to me when we were like I don't know 10 years old 12 years old 15 18 whatever it is how this kind of feeling of just having a strong relationship and genuinely liking each other I guess is one way to put it goes really far back I think we definitely got even closer in our adult life kind of after the high school and and and college Years and everything like that but the roots of that are in our childhood and who knows what they did other than you know some of the the more General togetherness things that I mentioned to to Foster that but I would definitely like to know but no just one other thought that came to mind and this is more of a a thing that is just a testament to I think our relationship is you know I I see in other families or I hear stories of siblings who genuinely wind up at odds with one another and whether it's family drama or whether it's fighting over money um or or stuff like that you know I feel like there's all these things out there that are are potential things to cause Rifts between family members and siblings in particular kind of given that they're going through life in a similar stage in a sense and I just literally could not imagine that with either of you in any way shape or form like I feel like we would sooner like give the others everything that we've had than fight over money for example or you know I I can't remember the last real fight that that we've had that's lasted for more than you know like a a five minute conversation where someone's just like not in a good mood and and frustrated or whatever it might be yeah and I've said about Ally before in in videos where people have asked about our twin relationship and if I feel we're competitive and I've think I've used the word we are the opposite of competitive or like anti- jealous or anti-competitive because I don't know how to describe how I feel aside than to say that I genuinely want more for the two of you than I want for myself it wouldn't feel good to be set and happy in my life knowing that either of the two of you were struggling in any way and going back to the childhood I can remember times if people are asking about you know things mom and dad did or said I can remember some specific times when they really drilled into us and instilled that family comes first family is above all else mhm if you ever have a problem with one of your siblings you talk to them you don't ever talk behind their back to someone outside of the family we a unit here I think there was a heavy emphasis on keeping an eye on each other and taking care of each other and so that answers the question of if we ever fight because I agree I don't remember I think I maybe Tiff more with Ally and our tiffs are more they just turn into these long drawn out conversations where we're we clearly disagree on something and then we just kind of laugh at the end of it like I remember one instance where we went under a blanket and made up and we were with Michael that's probably the last one I could remember though and that was like four years ago I know we we were just out we were with Michael's whole family and we were having kind of like a fight in front of people about something and then we just went under a blanket to Hash it out and the thing is we don't even have to what should we tell them what the fight was about oh yeah it was about how she was not even in her relationship yet she was single and it was me telling her that when she got married that she had to have a bachelorette party to which I obviously insisted that I had no interest in one and we got into a fight over I was trying to be like it's you know I'm the maid of honor I'm supposed to be the one celebrating you what's it going to be like if I don't do anything for you you did this whole thing in Aruba for me what and she was like well I don't want one and I was like well I'm throwing you one and it was actually turned into a pretty big fight wow this is actually really this is a an interesting window into the the twin Dynamic for me yeah I feel like I never really get to see the fights between you guys so like next time you have one just let me know how it went but the thing is when we when we make up from fights it's not the way you would have to make up with a friend where you'd have to acknowledge their pain and I don't know apologize and give them a big hug and whatever it's like we just our eyes change the way we're looking at each other we're just like all right my sword's down we're done and it's over and it's we move on but there really aren't this doesn't happen like the we we bicker I would say but really TR like truly that's the last real disagreement or argument that I could remember us getting in where we were just like not seeing I yeah I agree there hasn't been anything else what's the meanest thing that you've ever said to each other I don't you W I mean I don't think Allie's ever said anything mean to me honestly no but I would never say anything like I would never do that she loves me so much I would never actually say anything mean to anyone to anyone that I love in my family other than just like shut up like I don't want to talk to you you know yeah my twin sister Ally recently had some neck spine surgery and her doctor told her make sure when you get home from the hospital you are staying hydrated so I gave her a few of our element electrolyte packets she does not have them she's never tried them before and Michael and I over here are fully stocked up at all times because we have a subscription to element so I gave her a few packets she put them on her counter and she say she didn't touch them for a few days but a couple days later she texted me saying that just as she was having her husband change the bandage for the first time on her neck she got a little woozy and lightheaded and as soon as she started feeling like she was going to faint she poured the element packet into a glass of ice water and drank it and she said it was like immediately she felt a lot better so when I'm drinking element it's not typically for emergencies like I feel like I'm going to faint I just use it as a tasty way to boost my hydration during the day and I can't help but think if it had that effect for her in the moment like literally made her go from feeling like she's going to faint to feeling good just imagine what this is doing for your body when you're feeling good and how much it's just supporting you and helping you Michael and I are absolutely obsessed with element we love all the flavors my personal favorite grapefruit salt and the hot one the chocolate Salt that you put in hot water so good we drink at least one a day each of us and it's been amazing for staying hydrated during pregnancy I cannot emphasize that enough you can get a free sample pack with any element drink purchase at drink LM nt.com slre stuff and I highly recommend if you haven't tried it yet try out their new element sparkling which is a 16 o can of sparkling electrolyte water I used to just put the element packets in Seltzer and sparkling water so now it's done for me so tasty so good again go to drink lnt.com slre staff to get your free sample pack on this note of you know I think some of the areas that we've had these quote tiffs about are just areas where we are fundamentally different as people and that leads me into how all three of us are at different stages of life and I think it's been exaggerated in the past couple years for me having a kid and being married a couple years before both of you and I would love to know from your standpoint you know thoughts on everyone's different order of Life events that seems to be a big question that I get is was Ally upset that you got married before her how did your older brother feel about you having kid before him from my standpoint and I was the first to do both of those things so maybe I'm not the one to speak but the order of things didn't really cross my mind it was just a natural progression to the relationship I was in but I'd love to hear if it ever crossed your guys mind specifically as older brother but also specifically as the inline twin sister yeah I'll go first I mean given how things have played out slart playing out I got married a couple years after you and we're expecting a baby now a couple years after Milo was born it really hasn't crossed my mind I can't say I would feel if it was like you and Ally both were married with kids and I was single I think that would be a different story just given the extremity of the discrepancy in that situation ation and me being the older brother but given that it's only just been you know sort of in the scheme of life kind of a negligible difference in terms of when we got married and going on a parenting journey and all that it never really has crossed my mind I guess one thing I would say is specifically thinking about Lucy when I guess now thinking back in it just because everything that you've you've been through or your your major kind of Life Milestones like getting married and and having a baby it's just been the first one in the family I just like can't really put into words how emotional those moments were for me like maybe you can dig up and share on on your social media like the pictures of me at your wedding my face is just unrecognizably contorted just soing your eyes out ears literally like shooting perpendicularly off my face into the crowd and I remember when Milo was born it was like what time he was born at like in the middle like 5: am or something the middle yeah and well I like woke up at 5: am that day because I knew that it was like kind of happening late at night but I wouldn't probably know anything until the morning but I woke up so excited and looked at my phone I think it was at 5: and saw the first picture of Milo and just was utterly sobbing so and Ally That's not to diminish your wedding or when you eventually have kids or anything like that but I just think because it was the first one in the family those just really SLA me around I don't know it's obviously really easy from the outside to say like oh my God don't you compare yourself and like where you are in life to your siblings you know you were starting a family and or you were pregnant starting a family and I was when I newly started dating Zach my now husband but it was never like I never looked at it in a way that was like threatening or upsetting or anything thing it was just like I don't know to me it was just like another window for someone to look through to get to know me more because they could see how excited I was for like these other aspects of my life and these other things that my siblings were going through like when you were getting married you were like one of the first friends of ours that got married so it was just like such a new exciting experience for all of us it was like the it was the first wedding in the family so we the whole family was like pouring their heart and soul into it we were all so excited and then you know watching all of Robbie's Journeys along the way has also just been something that I feel so lucky to say that like I felt like I've just been a part of along the way like we obviously had a lot to say through his dating Journeys before he met Hannah and we loved being so involved and hearing about things when he did meet Hannah and receiving the news that they were expecting was like such a crazy moment for us and it's always just been another part of my life that like I'm so excited to go through and so excited to experience as you know the the sister of the groom or the bride or the aunt to the nephew or the futured nieces or you know it's always just it's always just been additive I I don't think it's ever been looking at it and saying oh my god when will I when will I do that or how come you know how come I'm not married back in 2019 when you got it just it just never was that way and I think so much of that just does come from our you know our Pure just like genuine excitement and and joy for the other person's happiness and wanting whatever is making them happy I think the only moments when that comparison would creep in correct me if I'm wrong would have been during your lowest moments like right when you went through a breakup or I know there was some time when you were single even before that relationship that you ended up not being in that you were frustrated about the dating scene in New York and whatnot and I think those are the only moments really when you would ever even look at a relationship I was in and feel any sort of way about it but I think the only way you were viewing it was almost like that's what I'm that's what I want and that's what I'm looking for not like I wish she didn't have that or I'm upset that I'm not there no like if anything it was like it was so helpful to have as an example but also I never felt like alone in my journey because I always felt like I had the support of you guys and family and like I said before you were like the first one of our friends to get married so there's so many people in our close Inner Circle were still like a lot closer to where I was in life than they were where you were so I never felt like I was on on an island just like lost going through it by myself and like I remember specifically like really leaning on Michael a lot during that time because like you said before your relationship was something that I looked up to and I saw the way that Michael treated you and the life that you guys were building together and it wasn't like a it wasn't like a point of Envy but it was like a a way to just see something that was so successful and aspire to find my own version of that Alie said something a minute ago that at some point we're going to have to double click into I believe it was and your past girlfriends we had things to say about those or something along those lines so no that's not that's not what I mean I just mean like we we love I just me I just mean we loved when you like started sharing that part of your life like it was it was such a it was such a change from the way that you had been sort of you know in high school and in Early College where we felt like we kind of couldn't really break that barrier with you and then all of a sudden you started like sharing with us and that was I don't know sort of a turning point for us I think and it allowed us to just like share so much in your joy when it was just we saw when it was so easy for you to to share with us and that's when we knew that it was really like the real deal the real stuff the moment the moment Robbie would start talking about a girl like our whole family is like okay everyone be quiet he's talking listen let's listen let's get every last morsel of information out of him before he shuts his mouth it sounds about right yeah but you're not like that anymore now you tell us everything and we don't even have to ask we each also have very different relationships not very different but distinctive relationships with our parents and you know one thing that at least Ally and I have acknowledged between the two of us is and something that Mom and Dad have acknowledged with me is the difference this is one area that I wouldn't say they compare us but that this is maybe the only area that Mom and Dad have ever thrown out Ali's name to me in a comparative way is how often Ally calls them versus how often I call to talk and I know Ally has an incredibly close relationship with them I can let you get into that but I know she you know talks to them daily regularly and I on the other hand I'm part of our family chat where I feel like I'm not always the most responsive one in the chat and I feel like I could go multiple days without catching or catching up with or connecting with or talking to Mom and Dad and I still feel just as close and that's one area that I feel we're different and I don't know exactly where you lie Robbie on that yeah I'm I'm definitely more similar to to you Lou in that I definitely don't call them every day it's on my mind a lot like I always kind of feel like I want to and should call them and talk to them more especially like as we get older and time goes on like I I just hate when I'll go like a week or two and I'm noticing like oh wow the only times that we were really talking was I needed some information or some you know something more tactical logistical yeah logistical exactly like I I just hate looking back on those weeks and and and feeling that way because I don't like it it doesn't I I don't like the way that makes me feel so I feel like as time goes on um it's just even more on my mind that I want to just be calling just to check in and just to say hi and see how they're doing but I still I I certainly don't feel compelled to call every day or really anything close to every day I'm more on the you know once or maybe twice a week train here and there definitely texting and in touch constantly but as far as actually jumping on the phone or FaceTiming I feel like I'm probably more similar to where you're at versus where alie's at and you all um yeah I call them every day it's just kind of part of my day when I'm leaving work I just get in the car and I just pick up the phone and I call them and I do that before I put on my music or anything it's interesting because it really is just so part of my day that I just feel like it would just be weird if I didn't talk to them on the phone one day and it's not always both of them it sometimes could be one or the other but I also have even become that way like with Zach's parents for example like I'll pick up the phone and I just will call Zach's mom when I'm cooking dinner he doesn't have to be here it's just sort of just like a comfort to me to just like hear their voices and talk through my day or whatever we don't have to be talking about anything important but it just it's just a part of the way that I live my daily life where's my call where's myel your call no where's my call uh where's your call I was about to bring Michael up because I was about to say Mich is very close with his family and his parents but he definitely especially in his adulthood has this sort of relationship with them where they give him I guess what I would classify as a lot of space and he reaches out to them to touch base and you know he he also doesn't have to have a topic to talk about but he will talk to them once or twice a week and have a longer more meaningful catch up rather than every day and now that Mom and Dad live relatively close to me and I see them every week on a schedule I like having that space in that time when it's just me Michael and Milo at home and not talking to anyone and especially with our family chat I can tend to feel like the parents and the conversations that are happening with the wider families are a little bit overbearing on what I can potentially manage given that I'm also trying to live my life in this house with this new family that I'm creating and so I definitely that's kind of the way I feel and it sometimes can feel to me like I'm being an angsty teen who's like leave me alone but I also didn't I don't feel like I went through that stage as a teen I feel like as a teen I was more aligned with how you are Ally and now as an adult I'm feeling it more of wanting to have that Independence and that space but also simultaneously feeling how you feel Robbie where if too much time goes by then I feel bad and acknowledging that they're getting older and not wanted them to feel like I'm pushing them aside so it kind of goes back and forth for me yeah well there's definitely a happy medium I mean like you know picking up the phone and calling them for 3 minutes on my drive home from work isn't at all taking away from my Independence in my relationship and the way that Zach and I are are a couple in our own home and it's it's not hindering like our lives as Independence you know a is this a a tiff in the making right here no I'm just I'm just saying like I I understand where she's coming from in the sense of just like being in constant contact but I also just think you know a few minutes of communication here and there isn't like Breaking the Barrier of your own family's little unit at least personally I often times find myself just overwhelmed with my phone and all the texts coming in it's not just the family but same anyone else who I'm talking to and like this will happen with Mom for example just because she's a big texter she'll be sending me some something that I don't even know what she's talking about and I'll like respond a few times but then she'll keep going and then like literally that's when I'll call because I'm like I just don't want to be sitting here with my phone in my hand texting I'd rather just have a quick conversation and you know in this digital world there's Instagram there's there's calling there's texting there's whatever else I don't know I feel feel like sometimes the easier path is is just to kind of ignore everything and live your own life in the moment which is great sometimes but you know then there's also finding the way to balance that with maintaining the relationships with people who you care about and ideally making plans to kind of get together in person too so it's not just texting phone calls and FaceTime all the time this reminds me of something that I wanted to bring up before when we were talking about things that our parents maybe did to help us Foster a close relationship with each other more recently and I'm curious if you guys have felt this I've noticed recently that maybe it's because of my straying off and having Independence and not texting or calling them as much but I think Mom particularly is extremely nervous that I'm not going to be as close with you guys anymore because the amount of times recently that I'll be talking to Mom about something and she'll bring up something that's happening with one of you and it will happen to be something that like either I didn't know was happening or just cuz we hadn't gotten around to talking about it yet she'll say to me you know make sure to call him make sure to call him and and talk to him about that or it was around Ally getting her spine surgery she texted me being like Allie's waiting for surgery tomorrow make sure to call her of course I was going to call her I also just spoke to her two seconds ago and the time when you recently went to Guatemala I don't think I knew you were going to Guatemala but to explain our relationship it would be very normal for me to see on your Instagram stories that you were in Guatemala and to DM you and be like what are you doing in Guatemala and that would be normal and we we still are as close as we are even if I didn't know where you were going and I was on the phone with her and she was like yeah Robbie's going to Guatemala tomorrow with his friends and I was like oh I didn't know he's going there cool and she's like oh call his flight's going to take off soon call him before he gets on the flight as if I'm as if we're GNA fall out of touch and Mom if you're listening we're so close hopefully by this point in the podcast you can hear how close we are and how much we love each other that there's no risk of us drifting but I think that's one recent funny thing I've noticed is that I think she has a deep rooted fear of like the family falling apart well it's it's funny because I feel like half the time in our text chat when someone's like on the way to the airport I'm like where the are you going I don't we're going somewhere but it's not because we're not in touch or we're not close yeah we were just just recently allly and I went to LA and Allie's talking about her trip and you're like where you going she said La for Emily's wedding oh is Lucy going too yeah we're both going yeah yeah yeah I mean so that's that's kind of normal but it's actually funny I feel like half the time when mom's like Oh call you better call Ally or check in with Lucy on this like we've literally already talked so I don't know for for me it's I'm laughing as I'm hearing you say that because it's such a classic thing for her to do and obviously she feels some sort of compulsion to make sure that we're checking in each other and we're staying close but I'd say nine times out of 10 it either already happened or it was about to happen anyway so it's really not necessary but I don't know it's just kind of a funny Quirk at this point yes funny I don't get that from her because she knows what she will have called I knew she wasn't telling Ally make sure to call Lucy she knows Allie's called me she has no she has no doubts in Ally just us speaking of our partners you guys had this unique opportunity where you got to know my partner from when we were teens all of us and this is funny notoriously Robbie and Michael knew each other first because they were on the same baseball team at one point I knew both Michael's sister and your wife Hannah before you knew your wife Hannah and I knew Michael's sister before I knew Michael and Robbie knew Zach Ali's husband before Zach knew Ally wow I never really thought about this but yeah it's very true so very interesting but I would love to just hear anyone's thoughts on this matter it's actually perfect timing because Hannah just walked in and he this conversation nice no I'm not I mean I'm I think you know how I feel about Hannah but I'd actually be more Curious to to hear both of your perspective on her yeah it is it is interesting that I I you know at very different times in my life knew both of your husbands before you did and I feel like my relationship now with both of them is is very I mean it's similar in some ways but also very different and I love them both and I you know I've every bit of confidence that they're the right partners for you both and they feel 100% like part of the family and I don't think I've ever gotten in an argument or fight at all with either of them so that's that's all great you know I feel like I look at Michael as sort of the quintessential mature respectful adult man and I feel like I always have even like from the high school days he always you know struck me as someone who's like hyper calm cool and collected very similar to Ally yeah in a lot of ways I guess so very even keeled and very balanced and you I've seen him get slightly worked up or slightly heated but I just feel like he handles stress and pressure a lot better than your average person I think he's so intelligent and I love getting into conversations with him around all sorts of topics whether it's what's going on in the world or what we're respectively working on in our jobs or more recently about parenting and stuff like that yeah I I knew Zach in a very different capacity much later in life he was a camp friend of one of my best friends and also went to college with my friend Leah who um was my cooworker in my first job and I didn't really know him as well I guess I I kind of like knew of him and was in similar circles and I just saw him as like a cool guy who I would see around from time to time but especially you know in the past years since you guys have been together and gotten married I've gotten a lot closer with him and I feel like we share a lot in common in terms of the way that we look at the world and in terms of some of our interests whether it's around kind of the world of business or whether it's around random physics topics or other kind of like social things happening in the world I feel like we can always relate and have really interesting honest conversations I also think he's wildly intelligent I mean that's something that I I I feel about both of your partners you know I remember the first time I listen to one of Zach's podcast interviews talking about like Costco or Trader Joe's or some other food related business shout out to Zach who is a podcast host as well yeah I I mean I literally was like on the floor I'm like this is the the level of articulation and the depth of analysis is just on on another level so I don't know just a bullet point on the list of of things but I feel like I appreciate them both a lot as parts of the family yeah I mean Michael obviously has grown up with us and he's been through so many different experiences in life with me and he's watched me go through things I've watched him go through things and he's just like such a he's such a sensitive person and he like is the best listener he always will just sit down you know calmly and thoughtfully just walk through whatever it is that is bugging me or stressing me or you know scaring me and he just brings such a level of calm to every situation that is you know like that of a sibling I just feel like everything that every piece of advice I've ever saw from him he just I just like always know that he'll come through like I I always know that he is so sound in his thought processes and he thinks through things so thoroughly and more completely than like any other human I've ever met in a way that when I feel like I ask him a question on something like I just feel so secure in knowing that I'm getting his guidance and then Hannah like I don't know think about it how like Hannah was probably in like one of the most challenging situations possible coming into this situation where she's just like oh my god he has twin sisters like how am I ever GNA break that barrier of closeness with them and how am I ever going to like get in with them and I don't say that because we're intimidating because I don't think we are and I think we've always been very welcoming to people who you care about but it was just so easy with her from the beginning it was never like I never had to like remind myself like oh my God let me like flip on the switch and not be just like twins with Lucy but like open the door for someone else it just it so effortless with her and especially when she met Mom and Dad obviously I think her relationship with both of our parents is great but like when I saw her bond with Dad I don't know it was just like so she was so calm and like so she just acted like family it was just so easy to welcome her and so comfortable to be around her and to love her that it was just such a perfect fit from the beginning really yeah this this is just one thing I feel like um obviously I there's so much that I love about about Hannah in our relationship but one of the things that I certainly do not take for granted and I'm kind of reminded from time to time because of other friends or their situations and how their significant others have integrated or not into into their fames how lucky I am and how lucky we are because I see that relationship and that connection that she has with really every every person in the family like I'm pretty sure she texts with Mom more than more than I do at this point I see her you know talking to to each of you individually she's often the one who's reminding me to call to check in on Ally and see how she's doing after surgery or Lucy because she has some big thing coming up or whatever it might be so yeah it's something that I feel like was really important to me in a partner someone who would feel a part of the family and would would want to build relationships with the people in my family and I feel like the the level to which that's happened has been you know almost more than I could have expected which I'm really grateful for yeah Hannah is someone who I feel like would have been our friend if we had gone to college with her or if we were in high school with her she's just that kind of person the whole thing was seamless and easy and I think I could speak for both myself and Ally when we say that there were people in the past that you dated that we felt like weren't warm towards us or that we felt intimidated by specifically maybe older girls or people that I would assume felt protective over you and felt a little bit jealous about your relationship with your sisters and wanted you to themselves and Hannah is just the opposite of that where she wants to bring us into things and she wants our opinion on your personal questions and your personal relationship details and I will say Z too both of them have been at least to me as one of their in-laws they've just been so supportive of me in a way that I didn't necessarily expect my siblings Partners to be but specifically around things in my career those are two people who are constantly texting me after I post something or after I do something whether it's congratulating me on something or telling me their thoughts on if they enjoyed something that I posted I mean obviously for me that's a big way that I can connect with people cuz I'm just sharing my life on social media all day so to hear back from people is nice ever since the moment I met Zach he would probably agree that early on in your relationship specifically not too early but around the time when he was asking my permission to propose to you I was really hard on him when he asked my permission because I was a little scarred by your previous relationship ending so abruptly and I was having what's the word pts word PTSD but uh I just was definitely nervous about what had happened to you happening again so I was extremely hard on him in the questioning when he asked my permission and he could not have handled it better he was just like listen I get it you know you went through this crazy situation and asked me all the questions I'm open I'm here he was with me and Michael while we were changing Milo's diaper one night and putting him to bed and he was at our apartment and he was just like ask me anything you want I'm an open book and it was just a great Rapport from the start he also might remember that I one time early on in the relationship called him by your ex-boyfriend's name I don't remember that and he he fully was like it's cool they sound similar you know just like was like don't think about it for another second and I was like oh my God I could have just ruined this relationship he gets deep into conversations asks questions and above all just clearly is the perfect partner for you and supports you and shows up for you in all the ways that both of us would want your partner to show up for you I want to talk money for a second it's not this isn't a standard podcast episode where I'm going around asking everyone's salaries and investment strategies but I just want to discuss how open we are about money because I think one thing that people were curious about is how openly do we talk about money I think we have this interesting relationship with each other where our whole family is pretty open with money in that we all you know use the same accountant and if someone's getting a tax return dad will just maybe write it in the text chat like hey Rob you got $500 coming your way and it's we're all very open I think we maybe have told each other our salaries or our incomes when we first got jobs we would share you know here's what my salary is here's the bonus but it's also a topic that now that we're all in our own relation relationships and we're all married and we have our unique situations with our partners we don't necessarily talk about money all the time to each other but it's one of those things where we could easily pick up the phone and call the other and ask any question about anything including how much money someone has or what they're doing with a bank account and it would just be totally easy and normal to discuss I mean one thing that that comes to mind for me is the fact that I mean just to say it you both make more money than I do and that could be something that you know is a point of insecurity or I'll just leave it at that could be something that's a point of insecurity but I just for what whatever reason don't feel that way and just feel nothing but happy for you both in your career success and I mean maybe part of it is just you've both been in different ways so generous to to me and to really everyone in the family and around you in in terms of like helping out with with things just to take some stress off like when it comes to planning our wedding like deciding to just like pay for a big Ally what what happened there we just were at this wedding and all of a sudden alli's just like casually drops to me that you guys weren't going to have a band and she just paid for the band no it wasn't that they weren't going to have a band it was just I I mean I hadn't been through it at this time but I know that like and Rob correct me if I'm wrong but I know that like going through all the different expens is of a wedding is stressful when you're you know working with a certain budget and you're trying to accommodate all the things that you want out of the wedding and I know that music is the you know other than the person he's marrying music is the most important thing to Robbie and I did not want him to have to compromise on what he wanted out of a wedding band or you know wedding music in general just because he was trying to fit the puzzle pieces together of the budget I can't believe you didn't ask me to split that with you well Lou I don't know if you remember but the fact of the matter is that you both stepped up and offered to pay for big things big uh budget items for the wedding Ally paid for the band and you and Michael decided to pay for the videographer which both both she's like oh yeah I did I mean like look the big picture here is that a planning a wedding is stressful and you have to make sacrifices and tradeoffs and those are both kind of Big Ticket items that cost a lot of money and it might have been something that we had to you know it's not like we weren't gon to have music or I don't know we actually might have not had a videographer but I think you both just didn't want us to make compromises in those areas so just being the the generous people that you were kind of stepped up and and made that clear going back to the question and the the broader topic I don't know simply I think it just stems from our lack of any real jealousy and just overall underlying desire for the others to succeed and to do and and have and achieve everything that they want to in life so maybe in another world where there is more jealousy or there's more competition things would be different but it just feels like the vibe is is good I mean money is just one example but just having things and achieving things and making progress in life whether it's Career Success or romantic success or other success in Creative Endeavors or whatever it might be so to me it all kind of stems from that agreed I wanted to go into just a few stories that have stuck out from our childhood and just see everyone's memory of it I wrote down three that stood out when I was thinking about our relationship and growing up someone asked if we ever had issues with Robbie dating any of our friends or us dating any of his friends or whatever and I had a memory of a sleepover party where Rob was interested in a friend of ours and she slept at our house and we you know me and Ally and this friend were sleeping in the playroom together and both Ally and I heard heard her get up in the middle of the night and sneak out into your room and Ally and I were like you up and the other was like yeah and we're like did you see she left and we uh I don't know somehow got Mom and Dad involved and got them to get her out of your room and it was a big rock in our friendship with this person and you know whatever it's over now but that's a story I remember and I'd love to hear from your perspective Rob what the you were doing okay first of all mom and dad did not get her out of my room there was no intervention there was Ally do you remember my no I no no so listen I my memory kind of ends with her sneaking out into his room I don't remember how oh I remember the end I remember the end it was after she had returned back to the playroom mhm mom poking her head in and saying basically like you better stay where you are I don't think your dad would be too happy to hear about this door close oh I don't think I ever knew about that that's my that sounds familiar yeah I mean from my perspective there you know there was a visitor who came and and went and that was really where the story ended for me I feel like maybe it came up like the next day and or or at some point and sort of like a we know about this I mean it it definitely came up between us but I'm talking about with with mom and dad like we know about this like don't ever do that again type of type of a thing but I mean listen first of all we were what in high school high school maybe early high school early High School okay something like that you're you know you're a young guy you have sisters who are two years younger who have some attractive friends there's going to be some situations you know that wasn't the only one we all know it yeah that wasn't the only one that was the only uh sneaky sleepover visit I I'm I'm happy to say but yeah you know it was at least for me it wasn't as contentious or of a negative thing is maybe you might think like maybe you guys were like kind of pissed about a little thing here and there but I don't know tell me if I'm wrong maybe you were way more I think we were more I think we were more pissed at the friend yeah okay whatever reason I don't think we like really took it to you blame you Allie's right it was more about our feelings about friend we felt like that was a major form of betrayal and listen a lot of our friends growing up both in high school and middle school and camp and wherever we were talked about you and like wanted to I don't know how to say it but felt like it would be fun to be with you and that's your I feel like we listen there were a few of our friends that it just wouldn't have ever happened with but I think our one friend I'm gonna shout her out Hannah Kates not your wife Hannah but our best best best friend from day one was kind of the only person who would tell us how that she thought you were attractive and she definitely at some point went through a phase of like I it would be great if I could marry him because then we could all be sisters and allly and I agreed with that but we she would never have touched you with a 10-ft pole because she was so committed to us whereas some of the other friends it's not like they were just friends with us to get to you but they 100% if given the shot would dump us for you and wow there were very few friends in our lives that we felt like were safe from your wrath well if I remember correctly there was like a little bit of a I feel awkward even saying this but when it came to the St Vincent's dance the the dance in our high school where the freshman girls got to ask any guy in high school to go to the dance I remember there was a little bit of a i competition is the right word but a fight over you between I think that was the the time period when Hannah Gates maybe was saying some of that that stuff you know there was never any like actual romantic everyone's gonna go type in Hanes Instagram no I because I always also looked at looked at like there were certain of your friends including her and there's others who I'm just out of I don't know privacy not going to start naming people but there was the friends who I looked at more as you know quasi little sisters than anything else because of how close they were to you guys and and how often they around and part of the family so whether or not I thought they were attractive or whatever like they were just too much like family members to me to to ever have any sort of romantic connection and Hannah definitely was was in that bucket then there's others who maybe you know I felt like they weren't that close wasn't it's more debatable I'm not really one to talk because I absolutely wanted to marry your best friend yes yes that's true up until about eighth grade and yeah absolutely would have thrown you way under the bus for that all right great great chat that's one story I remember another story I remember is when you got your concussion Robbie and you were at a bar mitzvah and you put on one of those Sumo suits didn't wear the helmet and then someone knocked you over and your head smacked on the concrete and Ally and I were actually home alone that night we were lying in mom and dad's bed watching a movie cuz Mom and Dad were at the bar mitzvah with you and we get a call from them that they're following you in an ambulance to the hospital because you hit your head and you have a concussion and I remember our first question was is he going to be okay and I remember very clearly them saying we don't know if he's going to make it we had a moment where we were like our brother's about to die and I feel like it brought us closer how do you feel about this H like it brought us closer like us with Robbie or me with you no no no us with Robbie I think it just brought all of us closer but that I mean it's a defining moment of like wow we almost lost him yeah I I my memory doesn't really recall it that way like I don't see it as like oh my God this was like a pivotal moment where we were like waiting with baited breath to figure out if our brother was going to survive I don't really see it that way but I do vividly remember it is there lightning behind you rob like what is going on oh yeah there's there's a thunderstorm happening for sure wow your whole window's flashing blue yeah that's cool so yeah I don't remember it quite that way but I do remember it very vividly remember picking up the phone I remember them saying they're going to the hospital I remember them saying the words subdural hematoma and us like Googling and freaking out was Google a thing yeah did you even have Google I don't know this was I was in like seventh grade you were in eighth grade I definitely remember it being traumatic and the memory is pretty vivid but I don't I don't view it as like a this was a life-changing moment and when we found found out that Rob came home from the hospital we were like you know kissing the ground that his feet walked on because we didn't think he was gonna make it I mean I definitely had a fleeting moment where I thought he wasn't gonna make it allly just said um subdural hematoma which I just wanted to clarify because this wasn't just like you know your everyday run-of-the-mill concussion like you bonked your head and you have a headache I mean I remember the experience really vividly obviously just given how extreme the circumstance was for anything I'd really gone through at that point in my life but you know I hit the back of my head really hard it was basically a concrete floor with a thin carpet and over the course of the next like five minutes I just remember my body utterly one step at a time like shutting down like my feet went numb my legs went numb the bottom half of my body was like paralyzed I I couldn't see I couldn't hear I started vomiting like basically I just felt like I was dying and I don't even know if I know this yeah yeah no it was I mean I was in the hospital for a few days subdural hematoma for those who don't know is a layer of bleeding between your brain and your skull that puts pressure on different areas of your brain that you know interrupts or affects your brain functioning that's actually that's what that's how Johnny died my one one of my best friends who who died in 2013 had a a fall down flight of stairs and ironically in a sick way like that's what ultim ultimately caused him to pass so it's a very serious thing that you know obviously they our parents didn't know what was happening at the time it probably looked really bad I'm trying to think if I were in their position you know you guys are 11 years old or something and I call you on the phone am I am I answering that question saying like we don't know if he's going to make it or am I saying oh yeah no everything's fine don't worry we'll figure it out they definitely didn't say that I didn't know that and that's no I think they were like utter panic and I it was also when they were following you in the ambulance so they maybe didn't even know about the bleeding yet but they just genuinely didn't know if you were alive yeah it was it was scary I mean luckily there was no surgery sometimes you need to like drill a hole in someone's head to relieve the pressure like I didn't need that I don't know we we always joke that that it may have know that's sort of like that's why I am the way I am type of a thing but no in all seriousness they're I was very lucky because there were no long-term consequences of that very much so speaking of heads I was kicked in the head this is my next story this is my next story and I obviously have my own recollection of the story but Ally actually wasn't there she was up in the hotel room we were on a family vacation Rob as the older brother who was responsible for me in this moment and witnessed this unfolding and heard everything that I told you that had happened can you tell the story from your perspective yeah it's funny cuz I was Justin Aruba with Hannah and as we're kind of walking around I'm like telling her all these stories this is where this happened this is where Lucy got kicked in the head she's like whoa what Lucy got kicked in the head yeah you know honestly this is one of those stories where I remember the story and I don't actually I don't think I actually remember the event cuz you didn't see the event yeah I mean you could have told me that I saw it and I would have believed you you know my has created some some version of this story that has played through but we were I know where we were we were down sort of where the the Smoothie Bar meets the beach type of an area where they toward the end of the day kind of Stack Up the beach chairs it was dark it was probably I don't know like 8 900 p.m. like not too late and or maybe it was even it could have been earlier but I remember it was either dark or getting dark and some like drunk random guy who was wandering the beach like talking to himself being unpredictable and belligerent just like swung his leg in the air and kicked you in the head for no reason like isn't that basically what happened we were on the beach it was me and a bunch of your friends and we were playing kind of a hideand-seek dodgeball type thing where people were hiding behind these stacks of pool chairs and I was hiding you know at this point I felt very safe in AR Ruba to be by myself standing by the towel Hut and I was kind of of crouching down hiding so that I didn't get dodgeball thrown at me I noticed out of the corner of my eye that there was a person there and I didn't look at the person but I just like registered there was a person kind of near me and what looked like some sort of structure in front of him and I think in hindsight if you would have asked me what I thought it was I think my brain just told me that it was a person sitting with a baby carriage in front of them like it was a big thing in front of them turns out the big thing was a stack of beers like a pyramid of beers and the person just looked over at me and walked over and just drop kicked me in the head with all their might and I I just went flying across the beach was all of a sudden didn't even see it happening just kind of saw foot coming at me and then felt my probably 40 PB frame flying and then I look back and it's like a stumbling teenager an American with all these beers and clearly just drunk who then just like wandered off and I think I was just so shook by the kick it didn't hurt that much I mean may it probably hurt but it was less I was less worried about how I felt and more fearful for my life and ran over to wherever you and your friends were and sort of told you what had happened and I just remember there being this whole flurry of you and your friends who were probably I don't know 11 at the time but I felt like you guys were parents and you guys like used me off the beach and you're like hurry up run he could have a gun I remember someone saying he could have a gun and I was just all of a sudden my image of this safe Island and this place that we go every year was definitely tainted and shattered and we you know ran up to the hotel lobby had to have the hotel called the restaurant where Mom and Dad were I think it was like before cell phones and Mom and Dad came back and we had to send the hotel security looking for this guy they ultimately told us that they found him and they whether or not it's true they told me that they tripped him and he hit his head before he was locked up in jail for the night and I felt safe for a fleeting moment but I just that to me was a real memory of you Robbie because it was a moment of where's my brother I need to find my brother I need to stay with him and you know I think from that moment forward I was definitely more afraid going out at night without being close to you uh it's funny that you're saying it it was a teenager like in my mind it was some like fully grown like Aude man who was wasted on the beach like on drugs no I think it was like picking people a white American like 16-year-old wow who knew yeah someone suggested that we end with a little section of who's most likely to so I've pulled together a few questions and I figure we'll just go in a circle and say the person that we think that's fun Ally will say it first then Robbie then me okay all right who's most likely to get arrested Robie me yeah that was my answer too it's definitely you hopefully not anymore but at some point in life yeah not now who's most likely to be picky about their food me yeah Ally Ally I was I feel like we should have like a everyone writes the name down and then so we say it at the same time or something well I was I was going to do that but some people are listening and not watching yeah yeah but it's it's too easy to be influenced by what other people should we all say it at the same time yeah let's do like a one two three and then we could say who we actually and then we can clarify who said what so say the name even if it's you yeah okay who's most likely to be the most sensitive are you ready one two three Al okay we all said Ally who's most likely to be the biggest Taylor Swift fan of the crew one two three who is most likely to win the Nobel Prize one two three Robbie wait who did everyone say I said luy but it was hard you said me isn't the Nobel Prize like physics I was thinking like the Nobel Peace Prize or something yeah same but I was going to ask you to clarify like what for oh I guess don't EX l no I was just thinking Robbie was a physics major and he's very smart yeah I don't know we maybe should yeah I was thinking a more like humanitarian prize no that's what I was thinking but I don't know what the right answer is okay who's most likely to be in the CIA or secretly be a spy one two three R I said me what did you guys say I said you I said Al a f wow interesting well I just feel like Ally could first of all she's like in this Finance world she knows all this lingo we don't know and I feel like she would keep things under wraps really well she knows all this lingo we don't know so you just know a lot about the world because you know about the financial markets I think Robbie knows more about the world than I do you may never know who is most likely to join a cult one two three Luc Robbie all right both me and Ally said Lucy and then Robbie said himself yeah I I don't know I sometimes when I find myself watching you know the documentaries about whether it's wild country or whatever else I be there yeah thinking you know like if I were there in that moment I could see myself doing this I too feel like I could get swept away in the hoopla yeah I see I see you being swept I think I could join like a naked Community I see you joining like a kumaya like you know that kind of go oh really like a live with the Earth you know oh yeah I would I would love to live on like a a shared Community all right I have four more here because I know Ally wants to go to bed okay okay also just like my neck hurts from sitting here this whole time okay who is most likely to be a low-key conspiracy theorist one two three but not lowkey just cons High key I don't like the word conspiracy because it's just one of those words that has a certain connotation and as soon as you hear it you think like oh tin foil hat like crazy person locked away like with Post-it notes and string all over their wall but I do believe that there's a lot about the way the World Works whether it's in the corporate world or the government yes the government the aliens yeah the aliens of course that you know there's a vested interest in in people just believing a certain narrative a certain version of the world and the truth is much more complex and often much more controversial in a certain way so I'm definitely someone who is interested in that stuff so yes conspiracy theorist so we all agree it's you who is most likely to be become the president of the US one two three me you guys think they'd accept a president who has an article on The Daily Mail about her vagina I don't like to be in the public I would never yeah I you know I think Ally could do it because she's a genius and because she's a great people person but I just don't think she would want to no listen neither would I I wouldn't want to be the president I don't know anything about world politics I think Ally has a cleaner track record that she's more likely to get accepted you don't need to know about politics and the world to be president these days don't you know oh damn wow okay so should I run yeah consider it wow okay all right thank you all right who's most likely to spend their Saturday morning volunteering one two three Lucy Lucy yay we all s me I love that for me such a good person such a good person but it's like partially because Michael would take me there all right last question this is a big one who is most likely to sell pictures of their feet for fun one I don't know one two three Robbie who is nobody is purchasing my feet okay Robbie but just clear the air here for fun like for fun for money for money Oh I thought you said for fun I did say for fun but I meant like for cash yeah I mean if listen if people are willing to pay I absolutely I would exactly okay quick background I heard on a podcast somewhere that everyone who has a social media following has a Wiki feet profile so I of course was like well I never made one of those for myself but let me type in Lucy think Wiki Fe and see and of course I have over 100 five star ratings on my feet and someone has created a Wiki feet profile for me and it includes every single photo I've ever put on my Instagram feed on my Instagram stories screenshots from YouTube videos where my bare naked feet are visible in the photos I'm s and I found this felt a little violated and then if you know you know and you start seeing my Instagram stories recently I've been putting emojis over my toes because no one needs more wik feet content but I started getting DMS of people asking how much money for feet picks and I said to both of you LOL I'm never selling my feet picks this is disturbing and I heard from both of you we'll sell our feet let us know how much send them our way so I did say Robbie because I think he's more likely to actually sell the photo I actually would I would feel so personally violated by people paying to see photos of my feet but it's an easy way to make cash you know it's funny I first of all I don't think there's a market for men's feet unfortunately especially feet that look like mine but you have nice feet oh wow thank let's make a profile and see what the world there were I wouldn't hesitate for a a single moment really like I don't really care like I'm not I don't feel like they're a private part I'll walk around Barefoot like if if people want to look at my feet especially if like I don't know I don't want my face in them because that makes it weird but if it's just my feet like take all the feet picks you want if you're paying for them let's go so if you were Robie do Robby D fank I will gladly accept now that I have a platform I will accept VM for Fe any day so if you were me and you got a DM from user 49278 who said how much for feet picks would you actually make a transaction I would probably throw out some ridiculously high number and I would think see what you get on one hand maybe they accept it and I literally send a stranger a picture of my feet that I literally couldn't care less if it circulates the internet and I get money it's like a,000 you know on the other hand it's just a hilarious conversation that is entertaining to me so it's a win-win in my mind okay well that's why you are most likely to sell pictures of your feet for money yes but the money piece is is crucial cuz you said for for fun and I'm not doing this for fun I meant for cash siblings I love you guys so much thank you so much for taking your time and for taking your night and for joining us in the show if anyone wants to follow them actually I think Allie's gone private yeah sorry yeah she's gone private with her 15,000 followers try to shed people um I'm trying to just bring it back to just the people who know me so no offense to those people if your if your requests are just outstanding yeah yeah if you're interested in following Ally just follow me instead I'll post pictures of her from time to time my Instagram is robj but more importantly um I'm actually shocked that we haven't talked about this but I have a band it's called East love the theme song to this podcast is actually one of our songs it's called Rolling Stone we're at eastl music on Instagram we're on Spotify we're on all the platforms so there's my little and if you want to hear the full song of Rolling Stone it's been linked in every show notes episode from this podcast thus far sorry I've also uh recently launched Rob think the Artist as well I don't have a separate Instagram for that but on Spotify you can find me there with my first release which was the song I played at my wedding called every little moment amazing and I will link that down in the show Notes too along with Robbie's profile don't follow Ally but you will see her a little bit on our profiles and love you two so much thanks for coming on catch on the flip side love love you guys don't forget to call Mom and Dad thank you so much 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